Leica Leitz Macro-Elmarit-R 60/2.8 vs Leica APO-Summicron-M 75/2 on SL (TYP 601) t at medium at long distance bokeh

[Shepherdphotographer]

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Hi all, would you be willing to post some photos taken with a Leica SL (TYP 601) + Leitz Macro-Elmarit-R 60/2.8, at f/2.8 and at medium and far focusing distances (20-30 meters)?  I'm not interested in the macro distance performance of this lens, but at more distant, classic, normal distances(20-30 meters) , to evaluate the blur with the Leica SL.  Would it, in your opinion, be similar to that of the Leica APO-Summicron-M 75/2 ASPH?  Thanks in advance!

Edited May 10, 2023 by Shepherdphotographer

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[Shepherdphotographer]

The macro-Elmarit-R 60/2.8 is a legend among Leica R lenses and gives excellent results even at infinite focusing distance. Marco Cavina defined his yield as: "Poetry in power): I report his document below: his blur is stupendous and delicate, exactly what I'm looking for: I would like to know if, in your opinion, his yield can be considered similar to that of the APO-Summicron-R 75/2, even if the 60mm is not an aprochromatic or aspherical lens, nevertheless very delicate ...... Theoretically they are two very different lenses and 60/2.8 is more contrasted and sharper than 75/2, I think ......

Here you are Marco Cavina's article:

http://www.marcocavina.com/articoli_fotografici/Leica_macro-Elmarit-R_60mm_2,8/00_pag.htm

 

Edited May 10, 2023 by Shepherdphotographer

[hansvons]

The Elmarit 60mm R Macro is the best bang for the buck in the market if you are looking for an R lens in the standard focal length corner. You can get a close-to-mint copy for 400 USD. 

I like the Elmarit’s humble way of rendering images. It's a wonderful portraiture lens and does anything else equally well. 

75mm on the other hand is a different story. Comparing the two is somewhat of a stretch for me. 

Regardless, if you are building an R prime set, the 60mm Elmarit should be part if it.

[otto.f]

On 5/10/2023 at 7:54 PM, Shepherdphotographer said:

APO-Summicron-R 75/2

Does it exist? I know of an SL lens with these figures.
Anyway, I swapped my Elmarit 60 for an APO 35 after inspecting the OOF character. In macro photo’s the blur is seldom dramatically different anyway and I liked them both, could hardly find relevant differences. In your situation I would keep the 60 if if you plan to a buy the 75 L, because it’s always wise to keep a Mandler of that price  when you step over to Karbe. The APO 35 was an exception to that rule for me. The fact that you can come that close with the 60 is something which is always handy to have at home (I’ve still got an old Visoflex on which I can mount the head of the 135mm Elmar). 

Edited May 18, 2023 by otto.f

[Shepherdphotographer]

Excuse me, I meant to write: APO-Summicron-M 75/2 ASPH"! The M lens group, not L.

Edited May 19, 2023 by Shepherdphotographer

[otto.f]

2 hours ago, Shepherdphotographer said:

Excuse me, I meant to write: APO-Summicron-M 75/2 ASPH"! The M lens group, not L.

In that case I would definitely keep the Elmarit, whether you buy the 75 or not.

[Shepherdphotographer]

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Thank you, otto.f!