LocalHero1953 Posted June 18, 2017 Share #481 Posted June 18, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have today shot a rehearsal and recital with the SL - indoors in a Cambridge college chapel, with relatively modern lighting designed for such performances. I shot the rehearsal with the normal shutter, but the concert itself with the silent shutter. I did some text exposures first, and saw no banding (the lights were too high for me to check, but I think they were halogen or mercury vapour, which should not cause banding anyway. There wasn't enough movement in the performers to cause rolling shutter effects. I have shot similar events where banding was immediately evident on the rear screen. I don't see this as a big issue. Most of the time I use the normal shutter. If I want to shoot in silence, I'll do a quick lighting check exposure first. I know I can't shoot silent with fast moving scenes, reliably. And that's it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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steppenw0lf Posted June 18, 2017 Share #482 Posted June 18, 2017 i'm interested to understand what your scenario and solution is? If have I have been using silent shutter to remain discreet, then I suddenly want to capture a running child and I have to pan for the shot. The child will be ok, whilst the background would be leaning. I cannot change shutter mode that quickly, and for me I will just have to user mechanical shutter from the offset. As far is I understand it cannot be avoided. So there is no solution for it. In this case it is necessary to use the MS or wait for a sensor with global shutter. I am flexible - so for me a "solution" can mean avoidance. But for this family scenario the classical shutter is quiet enough. (The children certainly won't mind.) Yes the problem in this case is the switch - how much time is needed for that. So for me too the ES is no valid tool, but no problem for me. Rather for Sony .... (who wants to push ES). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancook Posted June 22, 2017 Share #483 Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) preferred some of my 90-280 and leica Q shots last night, be here's a few 50mm 1.4 brit_220617 (7 of 79) by dancook1982, on Flickr brit_220617 (22 of 79) by dancook1982, on Flickr brit_220617 (43 of 79) by dancook1982, on Flickr brit_220617 (42 of 79) by dancook1982, on Flickr brit_220617 (53 of 79) by dancook1982, on Flickr Edited June 22, 2017 by dancook 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancook Posted June 25, 2017 Share #484 Posted June 25, 2017 50mm SL by dancook1982, on Flickr 50mm SL by dancook1982, on Flickr 50mm SL by dancook1982, on Flickr 50mm SL by dancook1982, on Flickr 50mm SL by dancook1982, on Flickr 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted July 1, 2017 Share #485 Posted July 1, 2017 (edited) 24 hours, one camera, one lens, one location. While this is primarily a portrait lens, it's a fun project with some really nice images. Edited July 1, 2017 by Chaemono 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted July 2, 2017 Share #486 Posted July 2, 2017 Summilux-SL 50 vs. Zeiss Otus 55/1.4. Just for the overall look. Converted in LR from DNGs with no adjustments except default sharpening, lens profile applied to the Otus and vignetting adjusted a bit for the SL50. WB as shot in all. Here's a link to full resolution files: https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-GGCRrg/ SL50 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Otus 55 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Otus 55 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/375620-image-thread-for-the-leica-summilux-sl-50mm-f14-asph/?do=findComment&comment=3307081'>More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted July 2, 2017 Share #487 Posted July 2, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) The SL50 maintains more contrast as it transitions from the in focus to the out of focus areas giving the whole image more depth. Also, the transition is so smooth with the SL50, it's a portraits photographer's wet dream. Converted in LR from DNGs with no adjustments except default sharpening, lens profile applied to the Otus and vignetting adjusted a bit for the SL50. WB as shot in all. Here's a link to full resolution files: https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-GGCRrg/ SL50 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Otus 55 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Otus 55 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/375620-image-thread-for-the-leica-summilux-sl-50mm-f14-asph/?do=findComment&comment=3307085'>More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted July 2, 2017 Share #488 Posted July 2, 2017 Below are crops of the above. Link to full resolution files: https://www.smugmug....llery/n-GGCRrg/ SL50 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Otus 55 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Otus 55 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/375620-image-thread-for-the-leica-summilux-sl-50mm-f14-asph/?do=findComment&comment=3307086'>More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted July 2, 2017 Share #489 Posted July 2, 2017 I've managed to get some cracking shots with my Otus 55 on the SL too Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted July 3, 2017 Share #490 Posted July 3, 2017 (edited) I've managed to get some cracking shots with my Otus 55 on the SL too Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Given your skill, I don’t doubt that. The Otus is the best lens for highest resolution and subject separation IMO. Coupled with the Sony a7r II sensor’s dynamic range and high ISO capabilities it will shine in low light situations like in a church in this respect. I still prefer the look the SL50 produces. Edited July 3, 2017 by Chaemono Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leica1215 Posted July 6, 2017 Share #491 Posted July 6, 2017 have you all updated your firmware to 3.0? does it make any improvement in focus speed on the SL 50s? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted July 6, 2017 Share #492 Posted July 6, 2017 Yes, it does. It didn't hunt for any of the pictures taken in the cathedral/church/car showroom here: https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-GGCRrg/ . Shooting the Otus side by side I kept thinking ‘man, what a blessing the AF is.’ So accurate, too. AFc and tracking is also improved IMO. Don’t take my word for it. Ask your Leica dealer if you could borrow the SL50 for an hour or so. Go into a church and see for yourself. Try tracking moving objects or your kids/family members at home. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steppenw0lf Posted July 6, 2017 Share #493 Posted July 6, 2017 have you all updated your firmware to 3.0? does it make any improvement in focus speed on the SL 50s? It is difficult to say if there is a difference - I would need two cameras for a fair comparison. (I can't afford that.) For me the speed of the 50 was ok even before the upgrade. It is certainly not worse now. I had from the beginning the impression that the discussion about the SL 50 was mainly a ghost hunt. (Some people found nothing good with it.) This is over now. But still the SL 50 is the slowest focusing of the three existing lenses. It will be interesting to see if it stays like that when the new primes come. But it is much quicker and AF is more on target than with any other 50mm lens you can use on the SL. (Otus or Nocti or EF lenses or whatever). But I am quite sure that there will be users who find it too slow, simply because they want to see it this way (and they will probably be eager to spread the bad news). Is this a problem - not for me as I use a 50mm not for birding or for other tasks where AF speed is paramount. If I use this expensive lens it is mainly because of the special contrast wide open. (Like I use the Noctilux not for everything, even though I could). But if you have a cheap and fast 50mm on a CaNikon camera - which is quite fast (though not terribly precise) under all circumstances and very very easy to use blindly - then you are maybe frustrated when you expect exactly the same when using the SL 50. But the SL 50 offers other advantages. On the SL you would often use the 24-90 for these cases (easy use with fast AF). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leica1215 Posted July 6, 2017 Share #494 Posted July 6, 2017 But still the SL 50 is the slowest focusing of the three existing lenses. It will be interesting to see if it stays like that when the new primes come. But it is much quicker and AF is more on target than with any other 50mm lens you can use on the SL. (Otus or Nocti or EF lenses or whatever). I haven't tried other lens on SL, so you mean the Canon EF prime is not faster than the SL? well if that is the case than maybe there is technical limits on speed for the 50 prime.. than we shouldn't complain about it 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancook Posted July 7, 2017 Share #495 Posted July 7, 2017 (edited) I think the "slowness" of the lens combined with the contrast detection weaknesses made it very easy to spend all too much time hunting for focus. Which leads to a lot of frustration when you can't get a shot.. especially it's a simple one with a stationary subject just feet away. For focus accuracy at 1.4 you ideally want to use pinpoint/field focusing, ideally you want to be focusing on the eye.. but sometimes there is not enough contrast in the eye and it will hunt, and I end up then having to focus on the collar and hope that the eye is in line.. An alternative is to use zone AF points, then you need to stop down to 2.0+ in case the focus point, probably some part of the clothing, is not in line with the eye. I do this for the first dance, since trying to use 1.4 pinpoint focusing on a moving target in low light is a hunt fest. I don't know if I've alleviated my frustrations with these 'tactics' or whether the 3.0 FW helped. Edited July 7, 2017 by dancook 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leica1215 Posted July 12, 2017 Share #496 Posted July 12, 2017 I just read the firmware 3.0 have both 24-90 and 90-280, but lack the lens update for 50/1.4.... so maybe it will come in next update or lens new firmware update alone.... hope by then the speed and accuracy will be improved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancook Posted July 12, 2017 Share #497 Posted July 12, 2017 Didn't use 50mm much at festival, since 90-280 stayed on 99% of the time Took it out in the last few moments of the night, my Q was out of juice and my SL was almost out by this point. lowde_fest (314 of 321) by dancook1982, on Flickr lowde_fest (315 of 321) by dancook1982, on Flickr lowde_fest (319 of 321) by dancook1982, on Flickr lowde_fest (320 of 321) by dancook1982, on Flickr lowde_fest (321 of 321) by dancook1982, on Flickr 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancook Posted July 30, 2017 Share #498 Posted July 30, 2017 King_270717 (1 of 49) by dancook1982, on Flickr King_270717 (6 of 49) by dancook1982, on Flickr King_270717 (17 of 49) by dancook1982, on Flickr King_270717 (31 of 49) by dancook1982, on Flickr King_270717 (42 of 49) by dancook1982, on Flickr 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephan_w Posted August 4, 2017 Share #499 Posted August 4, 2017 After some months of use, I'm a bit frustrated with this lens: - AF hunts in low light, even with FW 3.0 - this is the most frustrating, after all this is what this lens was made for? - AF totally unusable in backlit situations - manual focussion not practicalbe with this lens. I now mostly use my old Summicron R for those situations and I find this "abrupt" falloff of the focus plane sometimes a bit carricatural. Yes, it is very sharp, yes it is nicely corrected, but sometimes I have the impression that there are technocrats at Leica, not photographers Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/375620-image-thread-for-the-leica-summilux-sl-50mm-f14-asph/?do=findComment&comment=3330372'>More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted August 5, 2017 Share #500 Posted August 5, 2017 (edited) and I find this "abrupt" falloff of the focus plane sometimes a bit carricatural. With all due respect, I beg to differ. The fall off with the Zeiss Otus 55 is very abrupt, with the SL50 it's very smooth. Below one example and here at full resolution: https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-GGCRrg/ Zeiss Otus 55/1.4 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! SL50 Edited August 5, 2017 by Chaemono 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! SL50 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/375620-image-thread-for-the-leica-summilux-sl-50mm-f14-asph/?do=findComment&comment=3330623'>More sharing options...
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