jrc Posted October 26, 2007 Share #1 Posted October 26, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I was messing around with the Nocti today and took it off to try out the Nikon 12-24 zoom for another thread here. When I was done with the Nikon, I picked the Nocti off my desk to put it back on and absolutely fumbled it. It first hit lens down on the side of a wastebasket, threw the lens cap, and then hit one of the steel legs of my chair. All I could see in the first half-second was shattered glass. I picked it up -- and it was the filter. The lens doesn't have the slightest sign of a problem, and mechanically, seems fine -- not a single ding, not a scratch in the paint. (After it bounced off the chair, it landed on a soft oriental carpet.) Almost had a heart atttack. I don't even know why I had the filter on it -- I think I just stuck it on there last winter when I was fooling around with the color change problems, to see what it would do. It's the only lens I have that I don't have a cut filter on, and honest to god, that flashed through my mind as it was falling to the floor... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/36614-near-nocti-disaster/?do=findComment&comment=386352'>More sharing options...
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citrus Posted October 26, 2007 Share #2 Posted October 26, 2007 What a bummer! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveB Posted October 26, 2007 Share #3 Posted October 26, 2007 We've always been cautioned to keep UV/Haze filters on our lenses for the same reason that our mothers told us to wear clean underwear. In the event of an accident, we have perhaps some protection or, at least, won't cause our family horrible embarrassment. Thus, most people sport filters on their lenses as a matter of course. On the Noctilux, though, people complain about vignetting with even the lowest profile filter. Hence, there's lots of naked fast glass out there unprotected. That's probably less of a problem for folks with the M8 and the smaller sensor. What happened to you is a cautionary tale for all reminding us to keep a filter on the lens, if for no other reason, than to protect the vulnerable front element. I could probably buy a new B&W haze filter without even consulting my wife. To buy a new Noctilux undetected would require me to resort to deception and deceipt. The Noctilux is a massive lens and that introduces another issue. Six months ago I won an eBay auction for a late model Noctilux at a fair price. Upon receiving the lens, I noticed a ding, a gouge really, in the focusing ring. Looked like it had swung into something sharp or been dropped onto gravel or something. Otherwise, the lens looked marvelous. But I chickened out and returned it to the seller who kindly apologized for the unnoticed flaw and returned my money. The problem for me is that which such a massive lens, the possibility of internal unseen damage as a result of a drop/ding/bang/etc looms large. That's a big chunk of glass and any kind of impact could do something to the internal elements that I probably can't evaluate. I worry about this when inspecting heavy lenses like the Noctilux or the 75mm Summilux where there is so much mass and inertia swinging around. So even though the filter may have protected the front element, I have to worry about internal alignment/damage issues. Which is why I write you John with such urgency so as to offer you a way out of the extremely dangerous situation in which you find yourself. And may I call you by your first name, John, as I feel we are already as kindred spirits? My uncle, the former Nigerian Minister of Photography, was cruelly murdered as you no doubt have learned by now. But not before obtaining a large supply of new 6-bit coded Noctilux lenses with full Passport warrantees. Regrettably, they are warehoused in Lagos and I lack the means to secure the necessary export paperwork. For a small fee, enough to cover expenses, and upon receipt by me of your gravely damaged Noctilux as a demonstration of good faith.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meschugge Posted October 26, 2007 Share #4 Posted October 26, 2007 ...but then again, the shattered glass of the filter could have scratched the front element. It seems you've been really lucky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlc43 Posted October 26, 2007 Share #5 Posted October 26, 2007 Dave B. You gave me my biggest laugh for an entire week! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thai.charlie Posted October 27, 2007 Share #6 Posted October 27, 2007 Are there really people out there who think the thickness of filters cause the vignetting on a Noctilux? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayerische Posted October 27, 2007 Share #7 Posted October 27, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) You were lucky, and I'm glad for your sake that your Nocti is unharmed. I'm keeping the IR filters on my lenses.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrc Posted October 27, 2007 Author Share #8 Posted October 27, 2007 My uncle, the former Nigerian Minister of Photography, was cruelly murdered as you no doubt have learned by now. But not before obtaining a large supply of new 6-bit coded Noctilux lenses with full Passport warrantees. Regrettably, they are warehoused in Lagos and I lack the means to secure the necessary export paperwork. For a small fee, enough to cover expenses, and upon receipt by me of your gravely damaged Noctilux as a demonstration of good faith.... What a great, kind offer! If you can make it into Manhattan tomorrow, I'll meet you at the corner of 96th and Fifth Avenue, with a check. Between 9 and 11 p.m. If I'm not right on time, just wait -- I'll get there one way or another. JC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwelland Posted October 27, 2007 Share #9 Posted October 27, 2007 What a great, kind offer! If you can make it into Manhattan tomorrow, I'll meet you at the corner of 96th and Fifth Avenue, with a check. Between 9 and 11 p.m. If I'm not right on time, just wait -- I'll get there one way or another. JC This reminds me of a photo essay I saw on the web in the UK where a bunch of folks went along with a scam and arranged a pay back deal that even the scamster couldn't resist. They filmed him visiting an office, picking up a bunch of boxes with supposed PC's inside and then realizing that he himself had been scammed. Definitely NOT a recommended practice but it was great to see pay back for a change, even if it was just ruining the scamster's day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterlenz Posted October 27, 2007 Share #10 Posted October 27, 2007 Are there really people out there who think the thickness of filters cause the vignetting on a Noctilux? I think this may have been an issue with the 58mm filter version of the lens; the first version when it was introduced more than 30 years ago - I seem to recall having read something on this years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted October 27, 2007 Share #11 Posted October 27, 2007 Dave B. You gave me my biggest laugh for an entire week! Me too! I was Laughing at all! Please make me smile too: I've a UV/IR B+W E60 filter in the buy/sell section of the forum to sell for the best offer... Do you need a new one, isn't it? cheers Maurizio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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