Nimar Posted January 25, 2023 Share #1 Posted January 25, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) I used a pair of M6's for many years until the oppurtunity cost of dealing with film became too high. After that I flirted with a couple digital camera's but never enjoyed the handling or process and couldn't justify the cost of a digital M. I basically stopped doing photography for 5 years, in that time I shot ~500 frames across two different cameras that were both eventually sold. A few months ago I splurged on a Q2M, and have been fully back in love with the act of photography. It's not a proper M, manual focus is a very different proposition with it but so much of the Q2 is right. Reflecting on my M6 days, I thought there were a few improvements that could be made. Someone at Leica clearly also had a similar idea when they produced the M-D / M10-D to return to the pure process of capturing images. I suppose as the Q2 family falls in a bit of a uncanny valley of true still's camera and point and shoot for influencers, market research has deemed the Q2-D wouldn't be a commercial success. Well I don't need to wait for Leica, I've created my own Q2M-D and while it seems perfectly silly to do it actually increases my enjoyment of the camera. Everything I need can be controlled with a physical button, I've no need for an LCD. I'm not tempted to stop in the moment and chimp, or show other people the screen, I simply focus on capturing images and unload my card once a week like I used to develop film. In most cases my battery also lasts the week. I like this separation of time between shooting and reviewing, no need for any instant gratification, the differed sort is so much sweeter. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/363337-leica-q2m-d/?do=findComment&comment=4657593'>More sharing options...
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sir_ian Posted January 25, 2023 Share #2 Posted January 25, 2023 (edited) Haa, you took it a step further.. My cameras are always taped for many reasons.. But the main is to avoid people asking to see photos, but also gives the look of "old useless camera" that no one wants to steal i DO need the buttons though. Edited January 25, 2023 by sir_ian photo did not display Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_ian Posted January 25, 2023 Share #3 Posted January 25, 2023 Sorry didnt know it would make you literally download a file. 🤧 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/363337-leica-q2m-d/?do=findComment&comment=4657690'>More sharing options...
Datsch Posted January 25, 2023 Share #4 Posted January 25, 2023 Great thread. @Nimar Do you change ISO? With the thumbwheel perhaps? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimar Posted January 25, 2023 Author Share #5 Posted January 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Datsch said: Great thread. @Nimar Do you change ISO? With the thumbwheel perhaps? Indeed, Use manual ISO via thumb wheel. I played around with auto ISO but in M doesn’t allow for full creative control as doesn’t do exposure compensation. Also found exposure compensation in (A) annoying as when relying on it would often forget about it. Being in full M means I actually pay attention to the meter. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimar Posted January 25, 2023 Author Share #6 Posted January 25, 2023 2 hours ago, sir_ian said: i DO need the buttons though. Can technically still press them, though haven’t found a reason. Using multi point exposure and a spot focus point it’s just like using a film M. Going further, leaving the 35mm crop lines on makes it even more like using a digital M with a 35 f/2 and a ~30mp full frame sensor. With the added benefit of being able to recrop out if you need to. I suspect this might have been part of the original design that later got canned but it would be super cool if they added the extra image portion for the 28mm frame lines as well. And maybe zoomed in for each crop so you always got a .86 view or similar. This feels like the real future of a digital Leica but the marketing would be hard as people would get hung up about it not being true full frame etc etc and not understanding how the optics work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
evikne Posted January 25, 2023 Share #7 Posted January 25, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) Thanks! Maybe an idea for my M10, as I've always regretted not buying an M10-D. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsch Posted January 25, 2023 Share #8 Posted January 25, 2023 @Nimar @sir_ian do you use special tape? Duct tape would leave a ghastly residue ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimar Posted January 25, 2023 Author Share #9 Posted January 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Datsch said: @Nimar @sir_ian do you use special tape? Duct tape would leave a ghastly residue ... Gaffer tape, tried peeling on / off and no residue yet but don't really care, as could be cleaned if it really needed to be. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olaf_ZG Posted January 25, 2023 Share #10 Posted January 25, 2023 4 hours ago, sir_ian said: Sorry didnt know it would make you literally download a file. 🤧 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Those look nicely used. Any idea about their “milage”? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_ian Posted January 25, 2023 Share #11 Posted January 25, 2023 5 hours ago, Datsch said: @Nimar @sir_ian do you use special tape? Duct tape would leave a ghastly residue ... i use regular gaffers tape 5 hours ago, Olaf_ZG said: Those look nicely used. Any idea about their “milage”? and the Q2 is a new member of my family ... legit just got it about 2 weeks ago as for my other Q's they are very well used as they should be.. i have shot in ALL elements and lost one to salt water... is there a way to check shutter count on these? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimar Posted January 26, 2023 Author Share #12 Posted January 26, 2023 1 hour ago, sir_ian said: is there a way to check shutter count on these? Not a 100% reliable one, if you’ve never reset it then file number is an indication though it can easily be reset to zero. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwertynm Posted January 28, 2023 Share #13 Posted January 28, 2023 Maybe an unpopular opinion, but I‘d love a flip screen for this exact reason in the Q3. Best of both worlds. Change my mind. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/363337-leica-q2m-d/?do=findComment&comment=4662249'>More sharing options...
bobtodrick Posted January 28, 2023 Share #14 Posted January 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Qwertynm said: Maybe an unpopular opinion, but I‘d love a flip screen for this exact reason in the Q3. Best of both worlds. Change my mind. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! One issue…according to both Canon and Nikon repair departments, broken articulating screens, especially the hinge is one of their most common repairs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwertynm Posted January 28, 2023 Share #15 Posted January 28, 2023 vor 14 Minuten schrieb bobtodrick: One issue… I couldn’t find a source for that claim. I can see how that hinge could break when you knock the camera down with the screen flipped out. Otherwise this thing has been solid since the Canon 60D for me personally. If you never use the rear screen that’s not an issue anyway. If you do use it and don‘t want to flip it that’s fine too. If you do use it, just flip it around and attach back onto the camera instead of leaving it flipped out (protruding out of the camera body). I see only benefits, apart from having the hinge where the buttons are on the Q2 and any other digital Leica M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtodrick Posted January 28, 2023 Share #16 Posted January 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, Qwertynm said: I couldn’t find a source for that claim. I can see how that hinge could break when you knock the camera down with the screen flipped out. Otherwise this thing has been solid since the Canon 60D for me personally. If you never use the rear screen that’s not an issue anyway. If you do use it and don‘t want to flip it that’s fine too. If you do use it, just flip it around and attach back onto the camera instead of leaving it flipped out (protruding out of the camera body). I see only benefits, apart from having the hinge where the buttons are on the Q2 and any other digital Leica M. I’m in the biz…I deal with repair departments (including Leica) weekly. Face it…no camera company (or their repair dept) is going to come out and say…this is a problem…if anything they deny, deny, deny. Case in point…it took Leica ages to actually admit there was a corrosion issue with the M9 sensor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwertynm Posted January 28, 2023 Share #17 Posted January 28, 2023 Oh that’s interesting! Is it because people knock it off or because the hinge breaks (a flatcable)? Would be very interested to know and quite telling who‘s at fault. User or the engineers. My guess would be the user, which is usually the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtodrick Posted January 28, 2023 Share #18 Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Qwertynm said: Oh that’s interesting! Is it because people knock it off or because the hinge breaks (a flatcable)? Would be very interested to know and quite telling who‘s at fault. User or the engineers. My guess would be the user, which is usually the case. Oh, it’s usually the user 😂 You wouldn’t believe how many people I’ve had in my office with a broken articulating screen sheepishly admit they forgot it was sticking out, had it on the shoulder strap and they bashed it walking through a doorway or something. Again, case in point. Canon consumer DSLR (T6i, T7i, T8i etc…not sure what the European versions are called) always have a ‘student version’ (T6, T7 etc)…one of the main differences is no articulated screens because student break them do often 😂 Edited January 28, 2023 by bobtodrick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Chef Posted January 28, 2023 Share #19 Posted January 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Qwertynm said: Maybe an unpopular opinion, but I‘d love a flip screen for this exact reason in the Q3. Best of both worlds. Change my mind. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Where would you put Leica’s 3 buttons? If you shift everything to the right you probably need a joystick controller. You almost certainly would have to make the flippy-flappy screen scissor-hinged, pulling out from the bottom to go horizontal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil75 Posted January 28, 2023 Share #20 Posted January 28, 2023 vor 23 Minuten schrieb bobtodrick: Oh, it’s usually the user 😂 You wouldn’t believe how many people I’ve had in my office with a broken articulating screen sheepishly admit they forgot it was sticking out, had it on the shoulder strap and they bashed it walking through a doorway or something. For me an absolute non buying reason. Moving parts break easier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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