Genoweffa Posted January 19, 2023 Share #1 Posted January 19, 2023 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Trying to re-assign the above to: thumb-exp comp, front/top wheel-f adj. No luck. Default is thumb-f adj., front/top wheel-exp. comp. When leica says MF lenses, do they mean only their own MF?..w/their own adapters?..or am I missing something in my efforts? I am using Zeiss lenses (canon mount) thru Sigma MC-21 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited January 19, 2023 by Genoweffa Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/362227-sl2-thumbwheel-front-wheel-re-assign-mf-lens/?do=findComment&comment=4649525'>More sharing options...
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Photoworks Posted January 19, 2023 Share #2 Posted January 19, 2023 This setting in used for lenses that don't have electronic contacts and have an F-stop adjustment on the lens. M lenses, Cinema lenses and other older MF lenses. So no, you can only pick from the pre determent options. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genoweffa Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share #3 Posted January 19, 2023 After I posted I got them working the way I wanted. I put on my 24-70 af elmarit, reset both wheels, so f/top wheel, exp.comp/thumbwheel....then I put back on mc21 w/zeiss, set exp.com/thumbwheel, 'magnification'/top...and it works! Looks to me like some kind of software glitch or maybe glitch by design??....anyway, it works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobra Posted January 19, 2023 Share #4 Posted January 19, 2023 That's interesting... so if I understand it correctly, it may need a L mount AF lens attached in order to apply the changes, but once they are applied it will stay that way even if you switch to a "dumb" MF lens? If so, that is great to know! Brad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoworks Posted January 19, 2023 Share #5 Posted January 19, 2023 there are independent setting for AF lenses, and for MF lenses. there are separate option for video, and photo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genoweffa Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share #6 Posted January 19, 2023 33 minutes ago, kobra said: That's interesting... so if I understand it correctly, it may need a L mount AF lens attached in order to apply the changes, but once they are applied it will stay that way even if you switch to a "dumb" MF lens? If so, that is great to know! Brad looks like...it worked for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genoweffa Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share #7 Posted January 19, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) 13 minutes ago, Photoworks said: there are independent setting for AF lenses, and for MF lenses. there are separate option for video, and photo. ?...not sure what is your input here...but the solution to my original question was found by my wife's husband so all is good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoworks Posted January 19, 2023 Share #8 Posted January 19, 2023 27 minutes ago, Genoweffa said: ?...not sure what is your input here...but the solution to my original question was found by my wife's husband so all is good well you initial description was showing the Wheel assignment for MF-lenses then you put on an AF lenses and of course it uses a different setting. I was just saying that you have to change it in the section you want to use. Wheel assignment for MF-lenses or Wheel assignment for AF-lenses to top all that the Photo menu is independent from the VIDEO menu system. the changes that you apply in photo don't reflect in video menu, they can be totally different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobra Posted January 19, 2023 Share #9 Posted January 19, 2023 I think the key is that you need a native lens for ANY of the settings to take effect. IOW, then you can change the settings for both AF AND MF. But, if you try to use a non-native "dumb" lens with adapter, then none of the settings take effect. At least, that's how I understood it. Brad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genoweffa Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share #10 Posted January 19, 2023 3 hours ago, kobra said: I think the key is that you need a native lens for ANY of the settings to take effect. IOW, then you can change the settings for both AF AND MF. But, if you try to use a non-native "dumb" lens with adapter, then none of the settings take effect. At least, that's how I understood it. Brad 1.Put AF Leica on, set tw=comp, set topw=f 2.Remove AF Leica, put on mc21 w/non leica MF lens...resetted tw+topw are there 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
insomnia Posted January 20, 2023 Share #11 Posted January 20, 2023 Great, let me know once you find a way to set the joystick to AEL instead of zoom for manual lenses (e.g. M-Lenses) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoworks Posted January 21, 2023 Share #12 Posted January 21, 2023 On 1/19/2023 at 3:53 PM, Genoweffa said: 1.Put AF Leica on, set tw=comp, set topw=f 2.Remove AF Leica, put on mc21 w/non leica MF lens...resetted tw+topw are there you know you are still using the AF compensation settings, right? F-stop is an AF setting only, that make sense because a lens with no electronic contacts can have an F-spot change by the camera. the mc21 is what get detected from the camera, not the MF lens that has only : ISO, Shutter speed, Magnification I use the MC21 with canon Tilt-shift lenses, the focus is manual, but the rest of the lens is just like an AF lens, EF lenses f-stop is changed in camera. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genoweffa Posted January 21, 2023 Author Share #13 Posted January 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Photoworks said: 1 hour ago, Photoworks said: but the rest of the lens is just like an AF lens, EF lenses f-stop is changed in camera. makes sense...so I did not reset MF, but actually AF thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genoweffa Posted January 21, 2023 Author Share #14 Posted January 21, 2023 18 hours ago, insomnia said: Great, let me know once you find a way to set the joystick to AEL instead of zoom for manual lenses (e.g. M-Lenses) Sorry, don't have M-lenses and not planning to go this route for my SL2 I have a full array of prime Zeiss ZE, including a couple of Otus...plus few Canon EF Price/quality/delivered image of Leica M vs. price/quality/delivered image of Zeiss tells me to stick with Zeiss. Another factor would be the lens size...I am 6-4" with large hands fellow...just don't see myself fiddling with f-stop/focus ring on small M-lenses attached to a rather large body of SL2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
insomnia Posted January 21, 2023 Share #15 Posted January 21, 2023 So what does the Joystick button do on your end? And can you configure it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genoweffa Posted January 21, 2023 Author Share #16 Posted January 21, 2023 1 hour ago, insomnia said: So what does the Joystick button do on your end? And can you configure it? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! when I when MF Zeiss lens is on via mc-21, the following are available choices...I use AE-L Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! when I when MF Zeiss lens is on via mc-21, the following are available choices...I use AE-L ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/362227-sl2-thumbwheel-front-wheel-re-assign-mf-lens/?do=findComment&comment=4652861'>More sharing options...
insomnia Posted January 21, 2023 Share #17 Posted January 21, 2023 (edited) Strange, whatever I choose, it will always trigger Magnification ("zoom" in German ) Edit: it's interesting this works with the MC-21. With my Sigma Lenses (when turned to MF) it also works. Only the M-L Adapter acts out. Edited January 21, 2023 by insomnia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genoweffa Posted January 21, 2023 Author Share #18 Posted January 21, 2023 29 minutes ago, insomnia said: Strange, whatever I choose, it will always trigger Magnification ("zoom" in German ) Edit: it's interesting this works with the MC-21. With my Sigma Lenses (when turned to MF) it also works. Only the M-L Adapter acts out. what about wheels...are able to select them to your liking w/M lens? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
insomnia Posted January 21, 2023 Share #19 Posted January 21, 2023 At least I haven't had any issue with it. I have one on magnification and one on exposure compensation, nothing is greyed out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genoweffa Posted January 22, 2023 Author Share #20 Posted January 22, 2023 1 hour ago, insomnia said: At least I haven't had any issue with it. I have one on magnification and one on exposure compensation, nothing is greyed out. I would go step by step thru main menu and check any/all features that may relate/impact presence of MF lens...sample:mechanical shutter on?...does this make a difference? etc etc...try assigning zoom to , say FN button on front...see if this makes a difference etc etc...good luck 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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