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I'm looking for input on options for stacking a polarizer on the IR/UV filters that have to live on my lenses. I think the WATE issue for this has been resolved in the other thread I posted but now I'm looking at some other lenses. Here's the scenario:

 

I've ordered a Zeiss ZM 35f2 on which a B+W 43mm IR/UV will live

 

I've also ordered a Leica 75mm 2.5 Summarit on which a Leica 46mm IR/UV will live

 

I would like to be able to use a lens shade so theoretically I should get the 43mm and 46mm Polarizers. However I'm concerned about potential vignetting and I haven't been able to find these sizes in a slim mount.

 

Another option would be to get stepping rings to say 55 or 58mm on the theory that the potential for vignetting is less. BUT then I have to consider flare from an unshaded filter.

 

Experience with this anyone?

 

Thanks!

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Polarizers are a problem with rangefinders, but I have found the Leica Universal Polarizer that features a 180 degree swingout coupled with a modest lens shade to be my best solution. The use of the UV/IR Leica filter next to the lens makes all the difference in the world in capturing realistic greens. We took a memorable trip to Lake Louise & the Canadian Rockies prior to my UV/IR filters being delivered - spent many frustrating hours attempting to rid the yellow cast from the foliage without altering the overall picture color balance. I shoot primarily with the 28mm Summicron with UV/IR in place & the Universal Polarizer on the top - works like a charm. The polarizer new is absurdly expensive, but does come with 39mm & 46mm mounting rings. I have seen the polarizer sell on eBay at less than half of what I paid new, so look there. You might also find a 43mm to 46mm stepping ring to enable use for your other lens. The lens shade portion of the polarizer has greatly aided in flare reduction - don't have that option on my WATE with 67mm UV/IR & B+W Polarizer - much greater tendency toward flare issues, but color saturation on leaves is so much improved beyond what can be achieved with Photoshop. I have even developed a Preset in Lightroom for "Sunny Day IR + Polarizer" - makes processing a whole run of outdoor photos a snap. Our business is Estate & Ranch real estate sales (http://www.wkshumpes.com), so making the grass green (not yellow-green) & the sky blue is paramount to portraying the property with its best foot forward. I still utilize my Canon 1DsII for telephoto shots of deer & other wild game, but the M8 has effectively replaced my Canon for all other work - the wide angle lens resolution & clarity of color when correctly balanced is rewarding.

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Polarizers are a problem with rangefinders, but I have found the Leica Universal Polarizer that features a 180 degree swingout coupled with a modest lens shade to be my best solution. The use of the UV/IR Leica filter next to the lens makes all the difference in the world in capturing realistic greens. We took a memorable trip to Lake Louise & the Canadian Rockies prior to my UV/IR filters being delivered - spent many frustrating hours attempting to rid the yellow cast from the foliage without altering the overall picture color balance. I shoot primarily with the 28mm Summicron with UV/IR in place & the Universal Polarizer on the top - works like a charm. The polarizer new is absurdly expensive, but does come with 39mm & 46mm mounting rings. I have seen the polarizer sell on eBay at less than half of what I paid new, so look there. You might also find a 43mm to 46mm stepping ring to enable use for your other lens. The lens shade portion of the polarizer has greatly aided in flare reduction - don't have that option on my WATE with 67mm UV/IR & B+W Polarizer - much greater tendency toward flare issues, but color saturation on leaves is so much improved beyond what can be achieved with Photoshop. I have even developed a Preset in Lightroom for "Sunny Day IR + Polarizer" - makes processing a whole run of outdoor photos a snap. Our business is Estate & Ranch real estate sales (http://www.wkshumpes.com), so making the grass green (not yellow-green) & the sky blue is paramount to portraying the property with its best foot forward. I still utilize my Canon 1DsII for telephoto shots of deer & other wild game, but the M8 has effectively replaced my Canon for all other work - the wide angle lens resolution & clarity of color when correctly balanced is rewarding.

 

I agree with Texasrancher regarding the Leica Universal Polarizer. I have even used it with my Zeiss 21mm 2.8 with great sucess. I bought mine used.

Dave in NJ ;)

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A simple cheap solution:

Heliopan make excellent polarisers to fit most Leica M thread sizes.

These polarisers have a graduated scale engraved on the rim of the rotating portion of the filter.

Screw the filter all the way onto the lens and mark top dead centre with a spot of correction fluid on the inner non rotating portion of the filter.

Take the filter off the lens and set the filter for the polarisation effect you want with the spot mark you made uppermost noting the graduated marking.

Return filter to lens reset to graduation previousley noted and shoot.

This may seem a bit cumbersome but you only have to do this once for each scenerio you are shooting in.

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Polarizers are a problem with rangefinders, but I have found the Leica Universal Polarizer that features a 180 degree swingout coupled with a modest lens shade to be my best solution. The use of the UV/IR Leica filter next to the lens makes all the difference in the world in capturing realistic greens. We took a memorable trip to Lake Louise & the Canadian Rockies prior to my UV/IR filters being delivered - spent many frustrating hours attempting to rid the yellow cast from the foliage without altering the overall picture color balance. I shoot primarily with the 28mm Summicron with UV/IR in place & the Universal Polarizer on the top - works like a charm. The polarizer new is absurdly expensive, but does come with 39mm & 46mm mounting rings. I have seen the polarizer sell on eBay at less than half of what I paid new, so look there. You might also find a 43mm to 46mm stepping ring to enable use for your other lens. The lens shade portion of the polarizer has greatly aided in flare reduction - don't have that option on my WATE with 67mm UV/IR & B+W Polarizer - much greater tendency toward flare issues, but color saturation on leaves is so much improved beyond what can be achieved with Photoshop. I have even developed a Preset in Lightroom for "Sunny Day IR + Polarizer" - makes processing a whole run of outdoor photos a snap. Our business is Estate & Ranch real estate sales (http://www.wkshumpes.com), so making the grass green (not yellow-green) & the sky blue is paramount to portraying the property with its best foot forward. I still utilize my Canon 1DsII for telephoto shots of deer & other wild game, but the M8 has effectively replaced my Canon for all other work - the wide angle lens resolution & clarity of color when correctly balanced is rewarding.

 

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I have found the Leica Universal Polarizer that features a 180 degree swingout coupled with a modest lens shade to be my best solution. The use of the UV/IR Leica filter next to the lens makes all the difference in the world in capturing realistic greens...The polarizer new is absurdly expensive, but does come with 39mm & 46mm mounting rings... You might also find a 43mm to 46mm stepping ring to enable use for your other lens. The lens shade portion of the polarizer has greatly aided in flare reduction - don't have that option on my WATE with 67mm UV/IR & B+W Polarizer - much greater tendency toward flare issues,

 

Thanks all for your good tips. Once you mentioned the Leica M Polarizer I remembered having a comparable unit for my Contax G2 years ago that worked well. Needless to say I was shocked at the $435 price for new (well, not that shocked considering the name on it) so if I get one of these it will likely be used. BTW, John Milich mentioned on another thread that he is working on an adapter to use the M Polarizer on the WATE ("Polarizer with WATE and Milich adapter?") The Heliopan or similar is a good option as well and certainly not as expensive. Since I have a WATE also I may have to go the Leica route but if I run across any other good solutions I'll post them.

 

Cheers!

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