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Hi,

I am interested in the Sigma FP for indoor shots. I am reading conflicting information. Are the noise levels vastly better than other sensors or it is the same?

It is hard to tell these days what is post processed or OOC unless stated. There is a huge color, sharpness, overall image difference between these 2 reviews.

Sigma FP Flickr also shows some pretty clean, saturated colors, sharp great looking images. Or these are only obtained through massive post process or can you get the same

with OOC jpgs?

https://www.thephoblographer.com/2020/06/22/the-camera-no-one-asked-for-sigma-fp-review/

https://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2019/11/11/sigma-fp-camera-review-tried-one-then-bought-it-heres-why/

https://www.flickr.com/groups/sigmafp/pool/

 

 

 

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Both of those reviews pre-date Sigma's latest firmware updates. I don't remember which firmware did this, but the fp now has dual native ISO enabled, which provides a noticeable improvement at higher ISOs.

The fp uses a common Sony 24MP sensor type. You'll find very similar sensors in the Panasonic S1H and S5, Leica SL2-S, and Nikon and Sony full-frame cameras. I know that reviewers and brand enthousiasts like to split hairs on sensor performance, but it's probably too close to call for cameras of the same generation. If anything, the fp should do better than most, because it has excellent passive cooling (a hot sensor will be noisier at high ISO). It doesn't look like Sigma applies as much baked-in noise reduction/smoothing as Sony does, so you'll get more options in post.

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6 hours ago, BernardC said:

Both of those reviews pre-date Sigma's latest firmware updates. I don't remember which firmware did this, but the fp now has dual native ISO enabled, which provides a noticeable improvement at higher ISOs.

The fp uses a common Sony 24MP sensor type. You'll find very similar sensors in the Panasonic S1H and S5, Leica SL2-S, and Nikon and Sony full-frame cameras. I know that reviewers and brand enthousiasts like to split hairs on sensor performance, but it's probably too close to call for cameras of the same generation. If anything, the fp should do better than most, because it has excellent passive cooling (a hot sensor will be noisier at high ISO). It doesn't look like Sigma applies as much baked-in noise reduction/smoothing as Sony does, so you'll get more options in post.

Thank you.

I like the Sigma colors being closer the Foveon. I also just want to use OOC jpgs. If any serious images, I would use the raw file.

Aside from trying this limited quirky camera like the fp. Would I gain anything using it indoor every day casual shots vs. the CL? 

I saw some youtube that the FP can be pushed 6 stops and still render quite well. Yet it will still have the common noise at 1600-6400 as with the other 24M sensors?

So aside from the color science, noise is about the same then?

I’m trying to convince myself to pass on the fp and just stick with the CL. 🙂

 

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17 hours ago, Taki8888 said:

I saw some youtube that the FP can be pushed 6 stops and still render quite well.

That's because the real base ISO is closer to 800 than 100. That leaves lots of room to "push" at ISO 100, but not much room to "pull" (recover highlights).

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