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carstenw

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I can't imagine the Sony brand producing a troll. A 39MP R10 seems more likely.

 

Ray, one minor correction, and one addition:

 

- The D200 is not fully weather-proofed, it simply has lots of seals. If you read the Nikon documentation carefully, they make no guarantee, and tout it a lot less than on the D2 models. It is great that it has seals, don't get me wrong, but we are not talking about pro level weather proofing here.

 

- The D200 apparently has a documented issue with driving autofocus on big glass. I had never heard of it before today, and have suddenly seen it mentioned in several places. One place was the Digilloyd site, I believe. I hope the D300 solves this.

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I can't imagine the Sony brand producing a troll. A 39MP R10 seems more likely.

 

Most trolls are stubborn brand loyalists IMO, Sony (as a camera company) is too young to have such a customer base. LOL

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Hey I'll take one of those please. LOL

 

I'm in a really great mood today

So Guy, what's your next lens? I am stuck between a Apo-90 or a 75 Cron. I need either like I need a (bigger) hole in my bank account, but I am thinking anyway. I miss something for up close, sharp and fast. The 90 Macro is a great lens, but fast it is not.

 

I am also considering a film scanner to use with my M6. Does anyone a have better (and cheaper, at around $1100) suggestion than an as-new Minolta Dimage 5400 II?

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I am also considering a film scanner to use with my M6. Does anyone a have better (and cheaper, at around $1100) suggestion than an as-new Minolta Dimage 5400 II?

 

If you don't want the Minolta 5400 then you can go for the Nikon V ED or 5000 ED, I can't recall the exact difference between the two Nikon models now but I remember the 5000 ED offers 30 sec. fast scan which the V ED doesn't. Actually the Minolta should be cheaper than the Nikon, it was sold for 650US new before getting discontinued.

 

The 90 AA is not as sharp as the 75 cron when wide open IMO, but if you already have the 75 lux then the 90AA is a no brainer ... just my two cents.

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If you don't want the Minolta 5400 then you can go for the Nikon V ED or 5000 ED, I can't recall the exact difference between the two Nikon models now but I remember the 5000 ED offers 30 sec. fast scan which the V ED doesn't. Actually the Minolta should be cheaper than the Nikon, it was sold for 650US new before getting discontinued.

 

The 90 AA is not as sharp as the 75 cron when wide open IMO, but if you already have the 75 lux then the 90AA is a no brainer ... just my two cents.

 

The Dimage II is selling for about $700-750 on eBay at the moment, used. The Nikon V and 5000 are widely believed not to reach the level of the Dimage II. Even LFI had a review of both some time ago, and the difference was remarkable. The scanners are getting hard to find, but I know someone who packed one away, new, as a backup, but meanwhile decided to sell it. He will probably want more than $1000 for it, but it is new...

 

I lean towards the 75 Cron, although I have not heard before that there should be a sharpness difference between the two, except up close. The close-up ability of the 75 Cron is also attractive.

 

Two of my favorite areas of photography (portraits and mechanical details) both get away with a 75 quite well, but the 75 Lux doesn't really sharpen up all that well until stopped down to perhaps f/4. I need something faster, because museums tend to be where I find the machines, and they are often dark. I tried the 75 Lux and found it too soft, and stopped down, too slow. I also tried the Noctilux. Oh well :) The 75 Cron is beckoning. I seem to find things to spend money on faster than the money finds me. How sad. I need to apply for a job at a bank.

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So Guy, what's your next lens? I am stuck between a Apo-90 or a 75 Cron. I need either like I need a (bigger) hole in my bank account, but I am thinking anyway. I miss something for up close, sharp and fast. The 90 Macro is a great lens, but fast it is not.

 

I am also considering a film scanner to use with my M6. Does anyone a have better (and cheaper, at around $1100) suggestion than an as-new Minolta Dimage 5400 II?

 

 

Not sure , i lost my Nocti 30 percent off due to postmark date. I know I could probably get that straighten out with one e-mail but I'm not going to do that. Most likely a 21pre asph or a 24mm asph. I will wait to try some more in Yosemite, today i learned that Leica is sponsoring my workshop and my local sales reps are coming to bring all there demo's for us to shoot and Leica USA is also sending gear in for us. So hopefully i can play a little more with the 24mm and see what is next. Honestly i have quite a setup but i sold my macro for the moment to get a new MacBook pro . But i may buy one back later on. Right now with a 12, WATE, 28 and 35 cron, 50 and 75 lux, 90mm apo and the 135mm plus the 24 shift i really am in great shape. Been thinking of a D300 or 40d and a 50 or 60 macro and a 200mm just until the R10 comes to market. It will sit a lot but that is okay or just start saving my money and just rent if needed, which is really the smart think to do. Putting money into a new website that is 5 years old is the even smarter thing to do. See i'm bouncing around. LOL

 

Carsten if you have the 75 lux you don't need the 75 cron at F4 there almost identical. Get a 90mm , really like that focal length on the M8

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The D200 is a great box and depending on your use can be better than the D2x. Noise and color were better with the D200 than the D2x in my opinion. The size of the D200 body was also much preferred by me. ...

 

My D200 has the 13mm microprism BrightScreen focusing screen in it for ease of use with the manual focus lenses. This is really a major improvement. It also allows all the normal autofocus brackets or grids to work normally.

Ray--

Thanks very much for your input. I'll look into the BrightScreen 13mm mp screen.

 

I've already got the D200, but a friend who is using Nikon professionally is interested in one, so I'll keep your information in mind.

 

Your list of lenses is very helpful to this Nikon neophyte. The company seems to offer junk and excellent and everything in between, and I'm having a hard time learning to tell them apart. (And since I'm already spending too much time here, I haven't decided to join Nikonians. :o)

 

I'm not surprised at the range of Zeiss lenses you mention, and had been thinking about a couple of them myself.

 

It really is good to see Nikon going full-frame, though. I'm getting tired of Canon being the only game in town.

 

--HC

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The Dimage II is selling for about $700-750 on eBay at the moment, used. The Nikon V and 5000 are widely believed not to reach the level of the Dimage II. Even LFI had a review of both some time ago, and the difference was remarkable. The scanners are getting hard to find, but I know someone who packed one away, new, as a backup, but meanwhile decided to sell it. He will probably want more than $1000 for it, but it is new...

Carsten, the problem in the US at least is that the line is (not) serviced by Sony.

 

I bought a refurbished and guaranteed 5400 II relatively soon after the announcement of Minolta's move to Sony. Right out of the box it didn't work. Briefly, the company that was hired by Sony to do the repairs couldn't fix it and shipped it to Sony. For nearly two months Sony was telling me they didn't have it, I should call Minolta; Minolta told me to call the company that couldn't fix it; that company said they had shipped it to Sony. When the case finally got 'escalated' to a wonderful, cheery, competent, helpful woman at Sony, she told me Sony was prepared to replace it with one of their $500 list consumer grade cameras (which I could buy for $350 locally). She was too nice for me to blow up in her face. I guess that's why she's in the 'try to salvage the customer with competence' department.

 

If it can be serviced, it's worth a grand. I wish I had one; but I don't want that kind of (dis-)service.

 

You might also consider the Epson V700. It's a flatbed, but it has got good reviews as a film scanner. (Mike Johnston mentioned in his column recently that he bought one for slides and film.)

 

Hope this helps.

 

--HC

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Guy, I have the 75 Lux and 90 Macro, so either way it seems like an extra lens. I really want that closeup ability of the 75 Cron though. It focuses to 0,70m whereas the 90 is 1m. I would even take closer if I could get it, but I really need a lens which is tack-sharp wide open, right into the corners, and an aperture of at least f/2. I don't see any other choice. It bugs me that I will end up having an overlapping range, but I don't see any way around it.

 

That's sad about your Noctilux. Are you sure you don't want to try? The next time it will be a lot more expensive...

 

If you have enough customers, don't worry about your website yet. Perhaps get someone to tweak it for a couple of hundred. If you want to expand your customer base, then that might be the place to stick the money though.

 

Your lens lineup sounds great, except the missing 90 Macro, but you have a Visoflex III, don't you? Then you could pick up a 135/4 for peanuts and not miss the 90. What do you need a 21 or 24 for, I still don't get this? There is too much competition in that part of your range to add another one. I don't see why you need another camera either. I am burning for a D3 myself, but I know I don't need it :)

 

Howard, I know the guy who is selling the scanner, so I would ask him to test it for functionality, and then insure the shipment for the real value. From the LFI comparison, I don't think that there is anything else in that price range which can compete with the Dimage 5400 II. I would have to take a significant step up in price. The Epson V700/V750 is meant to be great for MF and up, but for 35mm it is not in the same league.

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Now I may not be married to Leica as many of you, my dear colleagues, but I have had a love affair with the cameras/lenses, even before I could afford to buy them. My illustration of the future of the R10 perhaps should have be likened to the Edsel! I still love the red dot, but that doesn't stop me being a pragmatist.

 

Laurence

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Carsten, I bought a mint APO 90/2 off ebay having lost out to Jaap when he bought Marco's and paid about the same €1500 I think Marco was looking for. It's back being coded, having hitched a ride with my ailing Nocti on DHL, but the short time I had it, I was really taken with it, love the speed, love the colour and it's noticeably smaller than the 75/1.4.

 

There's one going on ebay at the moment, UK seller, search on APO 90.

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The 90 apo is a stellar lens and very equal to the 75 cron. Now as far as close focusing i think the 75 cron maybe closer but i think the 90mm makes up for it in distance. i would like to know that for sure myself

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So reality is the 90mm gets closer to a subject is how I see that. Is that correct

 

I should say coverage and not closer

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The 75 Cron gets closer than the Apo 90 at their respective near limits, also in pure magnification. There was an article in LFI a while back, and I think it was 1:9 for the 75 Cron and 1:11 for the Apo 90. This is also why I lean towards the 75 Cron between the two.

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Yes, but if I buy the Apo 90, I have 2 90s :) 90 Macro is the other one. On a film M, I would tend towards the 90, but on the M8, I prefer the focal length of the 75, if not the framelines. The 75 is also much more compact.

 

One 75 is for portraits, the other for precision. I can handle a single overlap like this since this is an important focal length for me.

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