Camaro5 Posted August 24, 2021 Share #21  Posted August 24, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) I will be trying my Sigma 16mm 1.4 on the CL up at Bryce Canyon in October.  The rim of the canyon is almost 9000 feet elevation. With that and it being a dark sky area I'm expecting to get some decent shots. My though is to shoot the canyon with longer shutter speed at f/8 and then shoot the night sky at f/2 for about 15 seconds to avoid star trails. Combine the images in Photoshop.  I also have a Hasselblad X1D and a 21mm f/4 lens, but have not had much luck doing night sky with it. It's great for low light landscapes but very hard to focus with dark sky scenes. Hoping to have better luck with the CL and Sigma.  1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 Hi Camaro5, Take a look here CL/TL2 sensor for milky way photos?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
kalifornier Posted August 25, 2021 Author Share #22  Posted August 25, 2021 On 8/19/2021 at 7:56 AM, pocholin said: I went to Big Bend National Park a week ago and took some beautiful pictures, so, yes, the CL is a capable camera. Used a Ttartisans 11mm f2.8 for the first pic and a Sigma 16mm f1.4 for the second for twilight Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! The Milky Way pic looks great! Thanks for sharing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalifornier Posted August 25, 2021 Author Share #23  Posted August 25, 2021 On 8/23/2021 at 8:03 PM, Camaro5 said: I will be trying my Sigma 16mm 1.4 on the CL up at Bryce Canyon in October.  The rim of the canyon is almost 9000 feet elevation. With that and it being a dark sky area I'm expecting to get some decent shots. My though is to shoot the canyon with longer shutter speed at f/8 and then shoot the night sky at f/2 for about 15 seconds to avoid star trails. Combine the images in Photoshop.  I also have a Hasselblad X1D and a 21mm f/4 lens, but have not had much luck doing night sky with it. It's great for low light landscapes but very hard to focus with dark sky scenes. Hoping to have better luck with the CL and Sigma.  Look forward to the pics! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcorton Posted August 25, 2021 Share #24  Posted August 25, 2021 2 hours ago, kalifornier said: Look forward to the pics! As do I.  The night skies at Bryce are among the darkest in the country -- but you probably already know that.  Enjoy.  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pocholin Posted August 26, 2021 Share #25  Posted August 26, 2021 20 hours ago, bcorton said: As do I.  The night skies at Bryce are among the darkest in the country -- but you probably already know that.  Enjoy.  I've been wanting to take this trip for a while since Big Bend has the darkest sky in the US...and it has stayed out of the California fire's smoke path. I drove about 250-300 miles every day I was at this immense park! Here's a couple more pics, first one close to twilight time and second one around midnight: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!  6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!  ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/316014-cltl2-sensor-for-milky-way-photos/?do=findComment&comment=4263972'>More sharing options...
Camaro5 Posted August 26, 2021 Share #26  Posted August 26, 2021 5 hours ago, pocholin said: I've been wanting to take this trip for a while since Big Bend has the darkest sky in the US...and it has stayed out of the California fire's smoke path. I drove about 250-300 miles every day I was at this immense park! Here's a couple more pics, first one close to twilight time and second one around midnight: Are those taken with a CL? I've done some Milky Way shots with a Nikon D850 + 20mm 1.8 that came out pretty good but never with a CL. I think the Sigma 16mm (24mm equivalent) will be wide enough and I'm hoping at f/1.4 I don't have to use a crazy high ISO.  We have a lot of dark sky areas out here although most of them are in Northern Nevada & Utah. Death Valley is about an hour and a half drive for me but it's way too hot to go out there this time of year.  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcorton Posted August 26, 2021 Share #27  Posted August 26, 2021 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Lovely, just lovely. Edited August 26, 2021 by bcorton 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pocholin Posted August 26, 2021 Share #28  Posted August 26, 2021 4 hours ago, Camaro5 said: Are those taken with a CL? I've done some Milky Way shots with a Nikon D850 + 20mm 1.8 that came out pretty good but never with a CL. I think the Sigma 16mm (24mm equivalent) will be wide enough and I'm hoping at f/1.4 I don't have to use a crazy high ISO.  We have a lot of dark sky areas out here although most of them are in Northern Nevada & Utah. Death Valley is about an hour and a half drive for me but it's way too hot to go out there this time of year.  Yes, the CL and most with the Sigma 16mm @ F1.4, at ISO 3200. Most of them at 30 sec and post processing denoise and a little brighten with slight increased contrast. The 11mm Ttartisan also took nice pictures but you could tell the pics were slightly darker...and I had to do a lot of lens correction since it is a Fish Eye lense...no amount of lens correction got rid of the curve around the edges but it didn't matter much because it was mostly mountain range. This milky way is a stitch of five pics taken with Sigma's 16mm just at the beginning of twilight...I couldn't have done stitching with the 11mm.  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/316014-cltl2-sensor-for-milky-way-photos/?do=findComment&comment=4264416'>More sharing options...
Camaro5 Posted August 27, 2021 Share #29  Posted August 27, 2021 (edited) That's not bad for ISO 3200. I looked back at the shots I did with the D850 and was using ISO 8000 at f/2 but only an exposure time of about 8 seconds to not get any star trails.    Edited August 27, 2021 by Camaro5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pocholin Posted August 27, 2021 Share #30  Posted August 27, 2021 11 hours ago, Camaro5 said: That's not bad for ISO 3200. I looked back at the shots I did with the D850 and was using ISO 8000 at f/2 but only an exposure time of about 8 seconds to not get any star trails.    I have tried a lot of settings and 3200 ISO is a good compromise with noise, the CL doesn't introduce much noise at this ISO...however, 8 seconds at this ISO or 6400 is not enough to get similar results. At 8 seconds image is too dark and too much brightening or exposure increase (in post processing) makes the pictures introduce green "clouds" so it was a no-no. Do try higher exposure time, 24 sec also worked. I can only imagine what the SL2-S could do with better ISO capability and the fact that a 16mm IS able to capture 16mm wide views, being full frame! Might be time for an upgrade and just hustle the extra weight and mass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camaro5 Posted August 28, 2021 Share #31  Posted August 28, 2021 (edited) Just fiddling around in my yard last night about 10:00 to see what I could do, the CL did a pretty nice job of getting the stars. It's pretty dark out here and there was no moon and the Milky Way is just barely visible. This is facing south. Photo Pills Augmented Reality showed it up there but I'm sure there was just too much light. I had a little trouble getting the shot dark enough. I also had focus peaking on which actually worked pretty good. The stars were twinkling and came out sharp. Anyway, not too bad for a backyard experiment. This is with the Sigma 16mm, ISO 400, f/1.6 for 8 seconds.  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited August 28, 2021 by Camaro5 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/316014-cltl2-sensor-for-milky-way-photos/?do=findComment&comment=4265090'>More sharing options...
pocholin Posted August 28, 2021 Share #32  Posted August 28, 2021 @Camaro5 Tha's a nice result! One thing I've read is that for astrophotography we need to use the fastest f your lens allows you to, with that Sigma lens you should do f:1.4, your target is so far that it won't only focus on that theoretical point...and you can use as much light as possible. Focus peaking has been of huge help getting the focus, I like it a lot! Now you know that the CL is capable of good results...might not be the best for this purpose but it won't disappoint either! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalifornier Posted September 1, 2021 Author Share #33  Posted September 1, 2021 On 8/26/2021 at 5:29 AM, pocholin said: I've been wanting to take this trip for a while since Big Bend has the darkest sky in the US...and it has stayed out of the California fire's smoke path. I drove about 250-300 miles every day I was at this immense park! Here's a couple more pics, first one close to twilight time and second one around midnight: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!  Great pics! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thornless_Rosa Posted September 3, 2021 Share #34  Posted September 3, 2021 h. 4200m, Mount Everest, CL+11-23, 11mm Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/316014-cltl2-sensor-for-milky-way-photos/?do=findComment&comment=4268427'>More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now