Guest stnami Posted August 18, 2007 Share #21 Posted August 18, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) ......fast learner or a heavy drinker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guy_mancuso Posted August 18, 2007 Share #22 Posted August 18, 2007 LOL that one counted Imants. ROTFLMAO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KM-25 Posted August 18, 2007 Share #23 Posted August 18, 2007 God has spoken , let's all beg for mercy here. Wow one week with a M8 and you know it all, very interesting Wow...what a great attitude! Why is it that if anyone has anything other than total accolades for the still great M8, it is looked as BS? That reeks of a poor attitude boys.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted August 18, 2007 Share #24 Posted August 18, 2007 No i really think you need to understand the camera and working with it files in a converter that you find comfortable and able to squeeze every drop out of it. Canon make great gear but it is not perfect either and the 5d files are nice but there certainly not the cats meow. This camera takes time and i don't care how experienced you are , so am i and been digital only for 15 years that is a long time but you need to work it and understand what you can draw from it. Certainly not perfect but i'm a commercial shooter too so your comment is something i am supposed to abide buy and sell my M8's for a 5d , sorry my friend not happening. My clients are screaming with joy over these files and my DMR files , they love them and there blowing them up truck size. So please i really laugh on these holy than thou comments of yours and your wrong to boot. You have not been around here long enough to see how i tore this camera to shreds when it hit our doors and worked with users and leica to help people get it to a working level , I'm the last guy that gives it total accolades but it can produce extremely good files . Just need to learn how to get there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent10D Posted August 18, 2007 Share #25 Posted August 18, 2007 Wow...what a great attitude!Why is it that if anyone has anything other than total accolades for the still great M8, it is looked as BS? That reeks of a poor attitude boys.... I don't think it has anything to do with "not having anything other than total accolades for the still great M8", I think it has more to do with comments like: Looks like you are already set with lenses so don't buy the garbage about needing lots of new accessories, most great Leica shooters like Harvey, Webb or others use one or two lenses at *most* and get far better images than 99% of the gear-heads on here any day. I have a 28 cron and 50 Asph and that is really all I will ever have in Leica, no need for anything else. If anything, I would sell the 90 and replace it with a 28. ... in which you effectively state that 99% of the people on this forum are inadequate photographers, and immediately follow that by placing yourself in the remaining 1% by associating yourself with "great Leica shooters like Harvey, Webb or others" by saying that you, too, only use two lenses. That was quite an attention-grabber. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted August 18, 2007 Share #26 Posted August 18, 2007 Thank you Kent exactly what I was driving at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KM-25 Posted August 19, 2007 Share #27 Posted August 19, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Just got done with shooting day three of a 10 day commercial shoot in Cabo San Lucas, lots of time-lapse and all sorts of other things that are fairly cutting edge. The M8 is an awesome tool guys, but for a lot of shooters, like me, it is not replacing every piece of gear I own and will not be able to. I think the last two replies to this thread really tell it all as far as the attitudes that are here from certain people. I am going to continue to work with the M8 alot, but I can not shoot full moonlit aerials with a 24mm 1.4 at ISO 1600 with it, I can not do the great underwater time-lapse I just did with my 5D's with it, I can not do a lot of things with it nor do I expect to....and yes, the files I get from the 5D for now, are better enough to where I had to leave the M8 at home on this trip... And I personally know Harvey and Webb, they are not gear heads, if you took what I said personally, then it is really up to you to make the call whether you fit that description or not, not me. There is a lot of hype on any photo forum anymore, you have to understand where I am coming from. I think that for the average M shooter who loves the M system, the M8 is a great addition. But it is not the perfect tool for everyone, why is that hard for some of you to understand? For some of what I do, my Canon 5D's are going to give me better results than the M8 will, how about you not let your ego get in the way of other people's realities...it makes you look pretty bad on here... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack_Flesher Posted August 19, 2007 Share #28 Posted August 19, 2007 KY 25: Nobody is arguing with you over your choice of which system you use for what... It's more your patronizing attitude and self-aggrandizement I find irksome... Cheers, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted August 19, 2007 Share #29 Posted August 19, 2007 you have to understand where I am coming from. .... no I don't have tolots of time-lapse and all sorts of other things that are fairly cutting edge. ........sounds like you hopped in a bullring with a butter knife in one hand and a biscuit in the other....... and that ain't:cool: p.s. , how about another image you have been hawking that one on the net for a long time:D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest s.m.e.p. Posted August 19, 2007 Share #30 Posted August 19, 2007 I know this must have been posted somewhere here but please help a poor soul who is having sleepness nights thinking whether to take the plunge. :confused: Currently, I have a MP, with 35, 50, 90 lens already. I am getting rid of all my Nikon gears D2X, 17-55, 70-200, 85. They are too heavy and I hate to take them out. No point going to Canon as their gears are as heavy. My Olympus gears remain. I am going to add E-410 soon. ????? If you like to do a lot of testing (Backfocus, Framing Accuracy etc.) and fixing of problems you MUST BUY the M8. If you just want to take good pictures DON´T BUY the M8. The D200 is lighter than the D2X and will take perfect pictures with your lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted August 19, 2007 Share #31 Posted August 19, 2007 ... in which you effectively state that 99% of the people on this forum are inadequate photographers... Not at all, the reference is to 99% of gearheads, not that 99% _are_ gearheads. There's a difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted August 19, 2007 Share #32 Posted August 19, 2007 God has spoken , let's all beg for mercy here. Wow one week with a M8 and you know it all, very interesting Remind us again Guy how long you've been using the M system? I think you may find that the original poster has been using Ms for a bit longer than you have. You don't have a monopoly on sarcasm, so don't complain the next time someone takes a swipe at something you post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimF Posted August 19, 2007 Share #33 Posted August 19, 2007 Have I just been warped into photo.net or (worse) the DPR forums? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent10D Posted August 19, 2007 Share #34 Posted August 19, 2007 Not at all, the reference is to 99% of gearheads, not that 99% _are_ gearheads. There's a difference. You're arguing that point in a gear-related thread on a gear forum. I think the implication in the post to which I refer is clear enough. And apparently I'm not the only one who read it that way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted August 19, 2007 Share #35 Posted August 19, 2007 Ach, Kent, Steve is one of the good guys. I am sure he meant it well. Let's not get too picky, it is so easy to get irritated over nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent10D Posted August 19, 2007 Share #36 Posted August 19, 2007 Ach, Kent, Steve is one of the good guys. I am sure he meant it well. Let's not get too picky, it is so easy to get irritated over nothing. Hi Carsten, Really, I wasn't thinking in terms of good guys vs. bad guys, just responding to an argument. Admittedly it was a brusque response, but that's all it was. It was intended to clarify my stance regarding the issue in question, without actually throwing any gauntlets around. A bit too brusque, perhaps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted August 19, 2007 Share #37 Posted August 19, 2007 Remind us again Guy how long you've been using the M system? I think you may find that the original poster has been using Ms for a bit longer than you have. You don't have a monopoly on sarcasm, so don't complain the next time someone takes a swipe at something you post. You really need to read Steve this was about the M8 and nothing to do with a M system at large and i said nothing before his arrogant and condesending comments to the inadequete 99 percent of the gear heads on this board and drop names like it means something. Mr Daniel Murphy of Aspen Colorado Aka KM-25 needs to learn a little about insulting the 99 percent of the forum which obviously he does not place himself in. End of story Sorry but this is the way most of us have read his comments Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StS Posted August 19, 2007 Share #38 Posted August 19, 2007 Gents, I hope my M3 doesn't break down soon, since the M8 would be enticing then. I'm not meaning anyone in specific but I really would need to get used to the atmosphere in the digital section then... Stefan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delander † Posted August 19, 2007 Share #39 Posted August 19, 2007 I have never understood why being a gearhead is so bad. You can't take a photo without gear. Even a pinhole camera is 'gear'. The more gear you have the more variety (not necessarily better) of photograph you can take. You can never take a WATE photo with a 35mm lens. So if you don't have to why limit yourself to one or two lenses? The more you have, the more you learn and too my mind the better a photographer you become. Depending on your 'eye' you may not get much above first base but you will get better, and have more fun. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack_Flesher Posted August 19, 2007 Share #40 Posted August 19, 2007 Not at all, the reference is to 99% of gearheads, not that 99% _are_ gearheads. There's a difference. I go with Kent on this one... In AMERICAN English parlance -- and the OP the quote was taken from resides in Colorado -- his implication is clearly that 99% of the people here are gearheads and he uses the term as an insult to this group. Read it again: most great Leica shooters like Harvey, Webb or others use one or two lenses at *most* and get far better images than 99% of the gear-heads on here any day. The comment is probably pretty accurate though, and I don't really take exception to it What I take exception to is his condescending attitude where he infers he is different from "us" and attempts to place himself as an equal to the likes of Harvey and Webb by linking the "two lens" comment above to his own gear. I quote: I have a 28 cron and 50 Asph and that is really all I will ever have in Leica, no need for anything else. I think the implication was pretty transparent... Cheers, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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