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I cannot find any information about Metz SCA adapters compatibility with the SL, and the Metz site isn't much help. I have a Metz 40MZ-3i with SCA 3502 foot but before I try it out and damage anything I was wondering if the setup would allow TTL flash with the SL or just Auto or nothing at all. Also which information might be transferred between camera body and the flash unit. Does anyone have experience with this setup. Any advice would be gratefully received.

Keep safe.

Nick.

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vor einer Stunde schrieb assinder:

Hello.

I cannot find any information about Metz SCA adapters compatibility with the SL, and the Metz site isn't much help. I have a Metz 40MZ-3i with SCA 3502 foot but before I try it out and damage anything I was wondering if the setup would allow TTL flash with the SL or just Auto or nothing at all. Also which information might be transferred between camera body and the flash unit. Does anyone have experience with this setup. Any advice would be gratefully received.

Keep safe.

Nick.

Hello Nick,

I have a Metz 40MZ-3i and 54MZ-4 plus an SCA 3502 M5 adapter. While the 40MZ-3i works on the R9 in TTL mode, it obviously cannot do the preflash mode (Guide Number Control) with the digital Leicas. Therefore, the 40MZ-3i can be used only in A mode. On the other hand, the 54MZ-4 can do TTL flash with M9, M10, and SL using GnC. Neither of the flash units can do TTL HSS with the digital Leicas. I am not sure whether you can somehow do manual HSS. The big Metz 76 MZ-5 digi works also but it is very big and inconvenient to hold. I had one for a while and sold it.

If I have needed a bigger flash and HSS on the SL, I have used an SF 58, which can be found used at a reasonable price. I had a SF 64 for a while but I really didn't like its display with cartoon colors and sold it. I recently bought an SF 40 use, which is a nice little flash especially nice with the M10. 

I have no experience of SF 60 and SF-C1 remote controller. I understand they are nice if you need multiple flashes. 

SF 58 and 64 are Metz made, SF 40, SF 60, and SF-C1 are made by Nissan.

I hope this helps!

- Matti

 

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vor 2 Stunden schrieb assinder:

Hello.

I cannot find any information about Metz SCA adapters compatibility with the SL, and the Metz site isn't much help. I have a Metz 40MZ-3i with SCA 3502 foot but before I try it out and damage anything I was wondering if the setup would allow TTL flash with the SL or just Auto or nothing at all. Also which information might be transferred between camera body and the flash unit. Does anyone have experience with this setup. Any advice would be gratefully received.

Keep safe.

Nick.

An additional note: I have also a Metz Power Pack P76, which can be used both with the Metz 54MZ-4 and Leica SF 58 with cables V54-50 and V58-50, respectively. You can carry it on your shoulder and it gives a very fast recharge time for both flashes.

- Matti

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I only use flash very occasionally. I've got a Metz 54 MZ-3 plus an SCA 3502 M3 adapter and also a little Leica SF20. These work just fine on my film cameras, and the SF20 flash's own A mode works fine on the M. I can live without TTL or digital pre-flash because flash A mode produces good enough results for my occasional use. Questionis then, would these two guns work OK in their own A-mode on my SL2 with Leica R lenses via adapter. Obviously, no aperture information could be transmitted, but focal length might be for the big gun's zoom feature.

The obvious answer is "Try it" but Leica's boiler-plate strictures more or less say that guns with a central primary hotshoe contact are OK, but ones with multiple contacts might damage the camera. (I accept that other SCA adapters would have physically the same pin-outs with different roles that might cause damage.) My main worry is that I don't want to damage the camera, so please don't try it on my behalf. But if you've already got experience anyway, any knowledge would be appreciated.

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I only use flash very occasionally. I've got a Metz 54 MZ-3 plus an SCA 3502 M3 adapter and also a little Leica SF20. These work just fine on my film cameras, and the SF20 flash's own A mode works fine on the M. I can live without TTL or digital pre-flash because flash A mode produces good enough results for my occasional use. Questionis then, would these two guns work OK in their own A-mode on my SL2 with Leica R lenses via adapter. Obviously, no aperture information could be transmitted, but focal length might be for the big gun's zoom feature.

The obvious answer is "Try it" but Leica's boiler-plate strictures more or less say that guns with a central primary hotshoe contact are OK, but ones with multiple contacts might damage the camera. (I accept that other SCA adapters would have physically the same pin-outs with different roles that might cause damage.) My main worry is that I don't want to damage the camera, so please don't try it on my behalf. But if you've already got experience anyway, any knowledge would be appreciated.

I have a Metz 54 MZ-4 and SCA 3502 M5. On an SL (I don't have an SL2) the flash works in A mode and also M mode with GnC (Leica TTL). No TTL-HSS, though. With the R-Adapter L the focal length is transmitted to the flash and with native SL lenses the aperture as well. 

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On 4/19/2020 at 12:32 PM, assinder said:

Hello.

I cannot find any information about Metz SCA adapters compatibility with the SL, and the Metz site isn't much help. I have a Metz 40MZ-3i with SCA 3502 foot but before I try it out and damage anything I was wondering if the setup would allow TTL flash with the SL or just Auto or nothing at all. Also which information might be transferred between camera body and the flash unit. Does anyone have experience with this setup. Any advice would be gratefully received.

Keep safe.

Nick.

Have you contacted Metz? Albeit few months ago, I sent a message to them about flash compatibility with an S1 (the body hot shoe has Panasonic-Olympus connections, unlike the SL2) and received a reply within hours.

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Thanks for all the replies. I can never get over how useful this "club" is, bringing huge experience and technical knowledge to help answer questions. It is invaluable and members always go out of their way to help out.

Specifically on Metz flashes. I have decided I am perfectly happy to use them in Auto which has some advantages over TTL. So I am sticking with that.

All the best.

Nick. 

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