Cobram Posted March 17, 2021 Share #41 Posted March 17, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 17 minutes ago, Steven said: Love yours. I can at least share with you what I target as my minimalist kit, but I'm still in the search for the holy grail. I feel I am getting closer, but of course I will need to try this lens I havent tried yet ! Another thing is that I cannot be as minimalist as you, because I need more than one camera body. I need an SL2S, because I do a lot of video. I need an M7, because film is not dead ! and I need a digital M, because who doesnt need a digital M ! Therefore, in my minimalist kit, I also need three lenses. For the SL2S, the choice is obvious: the 28 Lux M For the M7: I have been loving my Steel rim For the M10P: I hope it will be the AA. There you have it, my minimalist kit: Steel Rim (for the magic Leica look and compact size) + AA (for the perfect modern 35 with a touch of Mandler and the potential investment) + 28 lux (for the perfection and the versatility of the FL). If this works, I plan to sell all my other lenses, APO included. Thank you for this answer. Can I conclude you are a 35mm guy? I don't feel confortable with 35mm focal lenght, that's why I stick with my beloved Cron 28. I must clarify: my minimalist kit is M-E+Cron28 but I use also: - SL 601 + Lux 50 ASPH - same M-E220 + CV 21/4 - Kiev 4 + Jupiter 8 (film) - Olympus trip35 (film) I developed a roll of BW Ilford 125 from my Kiev last week and I must confess the rendering is really superb. And one important aspect: total number of misfocused photos is 0. 🙂 I really like Kiev/Contax focusing ability. I find it easier to focus on Kiev comparing to M-E220. And this Jupiter/Sonnar BW look is really superb. The only problem I encounter is grainy/low quality look after scanning. I observed similar effect on your photos. How you digitalise your film? In next weeks I will try to produce some photos on photo paper without any digital scanning like we used to do it decades ago. I will post results. Hope this old school technique will eliminate this grainiy/digital processed look I'm getting now from my developed film roll after scanning process applied. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cobram Posted March 17, 2021 Share #42 Posted March 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, Steven said: Always have been, for the past 15 years. I see the world in 35. But I recently discovered 28 through my Q2, then bought a 28 lux M, and it has been a true revelation. I absolutely love that focal length for my travel photography. I think it has made my photos better and more interesting. For people/family, I still find 35 more flattering. For video, I still prefer 35 over 28, it looks more filmic, or cinematic, to my eye. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Nice "minimalist" kit ! Show us ! You woke up our curiosity now I developed most my films in a Kodak printing shop outside my house. They scan the film in very low quality (about 3MP) because they cant do better. Since the files are small, I use them to post here, but they are indeed grainy. However, I recently acquire an Optek 8200i. It can scan files of up to 80MP and it seems to help massively with the quality. You still see the grain, but the fine grain we love. Not a pixelized type of grain. Thank you for this answer. I will check Optek 8200i. I'm obsessed with film look and always feel dissapointed by scaning results. Yes, minimalism. 🤣😂 But I do usually take with me only one lens and one camera - my take on minimalism.😁 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGodParticle/Hari Posted March 17, 2021 Share #43 Posted March 17, 2021 On 3/14/2021 at 10:07 PM, JMF said: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 35 AA on M10 Hari in Paris ! 35 AA on M9M Looking forward to hangout in Paris again when some level of normalcy is back ... hope all's well my friend 🍻 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JMF Posted March 17, 2021 Share #44 Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, TheGodParticle/Hari said: Looking forward to hangout in Paris again when some level of normalcy is back ... hope all's well my friend 🍻 Thank you Hari, hope all is well too ! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! We were waiting for the Noctilux re edition to happen 🙂 Cheers, JM. Edited March 17, 2021 by JMF Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! We were waiting for the Noctilux re edition to happen 🙂 Cheers, JM. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/304250-35mm-summilux-aspherical-aa-sample-images/?do=findComment&comment=4162615'>More sharing options...
Guest JMF Posted March 17, 2021 Share #45 Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 35 Summilux AA on M10 (wrong EXIF) thru a thick window Edited March 17, 2021 by JMF Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 35 Summilux AA on M10 (wrong EXIF) thru a thick window ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/304250-35mm-summilux-aspherical-aa-sample-images/?do=findComment&comment=4162639'>More sharing options...
ELAN Posted March 17, 2021 Author Share #46 Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) Resurrection of this thread inspired me to mount the 35 AA this morning. M10 + 35AA wide open at MFD with ND3. Compression killed the colors. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited March 17, 2021 by ELAN 14 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/304250-35mm-summilux-aspherical-aa-sample-images/?do=findComment&comment=4162715'>More sharing options...
ELAN Posted March 17, 2021 Author Share #47 Posted March 17, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) M10 + 35AA wide open with ND3 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/304250-35mm-summilux-aspherical-aa-sample-images/?do=findComment&comment=4162731'>More sharing options...
ELAN Posted March 17, 2021 Author Share #48 Posted March 17, 2021 Hmm... colors on uploaded photos are getting de-saturated (forum update?). Switching to B&W. M10, 35 AA at f/1.4 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/304250-35mm-summilux-aspherical-aa-sample-images/?do=findComment&comment=4162744'>More sharing options...
ELAN Posted March 17, 2021 Author Share #49 Posted March 17, 2021 M10, 35 AA Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 8 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/304250-35mm-summilux-aspherical-aa-sample-images/?do=findComment&comment=4162748'>More sharing options...
ELAN Posted March 17, 2021 Author Share #50 Posted March 17, 2021 M10, 35 AA at f/1.4 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 10 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/304250-35mm-summilux-aspherical-aa-sample-images/?do=findComment&comment=4162758'>More sharing options...
Gelatino Posted March 18, 2021 Share #51 Posted March 18, 2021 On 3/17/2021 at 9:42 AM, Steven said: If this works, I plan to sell all my other lenses, APO included. Do you mean the Summicron 35 too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
insideline Posted March 18, 2021 Share #52 Posted March 18, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Steven said: Yes, the Summicron 35 APO that I got two weeks ago. In my plan for a minimalist 35mm kit (toutes proportion gardées, of course, since to me it means 3-4 lenses max), I do not think that the 35 APO M will make the cut. Hi Steven, I have truly enjoyed reading about your thoughts on the new 35 APO, as well as the process you are in the midst of to narrow down your lens selection as I too am trying to do the same and I suspect we are not alone. I just read back a page and saw that you had already provided your narrowed down list of bodies and lenses but are you really considering no focal length longer than 35mm? I too have the 28 Lux which is a stunner, I also have the 35 AA from new but I could not live without at least a handful of 50's IE: black chrome Lux, my Dad's 1968 1.2 Noctilux, .95 Noctilux, E58 F1 Noctilux, new 1.2 Noctilux, Pre-Asph 1.4 Summilux, Rigid, I honesty would not know how to narrow down this list of 50's as they are all quite different yet all simply fabulous lenses. If you do posses the strength and will power to narrow down that much you have my sincere admiration as I posses no such strength. Thank you again for sharing so much with us all, I know how much time that has taken, much appreciated. Edited March 18, 2021 by insideline missed info 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Jefferson Posted March 18, 2021 Share #53 Posted March 18, 2021 34 minutes ago, Steven said: Thank you for your very kind message. For the sake of this thread, I will paste below the message from the other thread that I think you are referring to: Well, I suppose you will not be surprised to find out that in my potential "Final 3", there will be a guaranteed spot for: - The Summilux Pre Asph v1, aka Steel Rim. It earned a spot for its beautiful design and look, its classic Leica glow, its value as investment, as it has now entered the collectible category, and of course, it's the most compact lens I own. I cannot imagine ever parting with this lens. I'd be happy to be buried with it. - To complement the little Mandler gem mentioned just above, I am about to receive my latest acquisition, the Summilux Aspherical, aka, the 35AA. I haven't tried yet, but if the rumours are true, it will be a perfect "modern alternative" with IQ reaching the level of cine lenses, fine colour transitions, sharp in the center with a touch of Mandler around the frame, and of course, a low light beast. It is also know to have the most magic 3D pop effect we all love. As far as the investment value, no need to say that it's one of the most sought after lens for collectioners, and it's value has not stopped going up and should continue to reach astronomical prices. - The third and last lens, is almost the one in the title of this thread. The Nokton 35mm 1.4 MC 1, Silver limited edition. Only 250 copies around the world, it has already doubled in value since it came out. Design wise, it is an exact knockoff of the Steel Rim. In the way it renders, I place it somewhere between the FLE and the Pre Asph, but a little closer to the modern lens. As you might have understood, this will be my beat around lens. The one that is ok to lose if I really need to lose one, or the one that I take out when it's raining, or the one that I can be a little more careless with. It also has a second advantage for me: it is as compact as the steel rim, but much more usable at night if I find myself in a city environment. Love this little gem. What I like about this setup is that although three lenses of the same focal length can seem like a lot to some, it's not to me, and with these three lens, I know exactly when I need to take each one, and it saves me time choosing (and regretting) the lens I pick up in the morning. I'm getting closer to my Nirvana. Regarding your other question: 35 has always been my focal length. For the past 15 years, I didn't own anything else than a 35, and when I briefly tried (on other systems than Leica) I hate it quickly. 35 for me can tell any story. I can shoot an entire scene (that tells an entire story) or close in on a person's eye (that tells an entire story). I never regret shooting with a 35, it can do everything, from portraits, to landscapes, to street, etc..... I can live with a 35 for the rest of my life. That being said, since I entered the Leicaverse, a whole new world of opportunities opened up to me. Through the Q line, I discovered a new focal length: 28mm. Some people say that it is very similar to a 35, but to me there is a huge abyss. I took a leap of faith a few month ago and bought the 28 Summilux M. It has been instant passion. This lens has become one of my all time favourites, and I'm absolutely obsessed with it. Since I discovered this new love for the 28mm FL, I am even considering adding a more compact option to my kit: the Elmarit or the Summaron. I have shot before at 50, 75, 85, and 90. While I love the compression and the look you can sometimes get on portraits, it's too tight for me. I'm more of a story teller than a beauty portraits kind of person, and I dont manage to tell stories with anything longer than 35, so 99% of the time, I end up regretting having a 50 or a 75.... As for wider than 28, I love the rendering of the photos I see from the 21SEM, but in my previous experience, even with a 24 I feel too disconnected from people, and people is what I shoot the most. In conclusion, to the three 35 lens kit I described above, in the near future, you can include one more lens. The 28 Lux. A true legend of a lens. The only one that could maybe one day make me forget about my 35s. I can relate to the 35mm vs 28mm almost exactly like you put it. 35mm is the most versatile story telling lens but the more I shoot it the more I feel like it's a "formal" framing lens - no drama, just tidy and clean frames. 28 opened a lot more possibilities while not being much wider than 35. Just days of owning the 28/2 already made me lust for a 28lux. Someday...Hopefully soon... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
insideline Posted March 18, 2021 Share #54 Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Steven said: Well put The difference is bigger than a stop of light. Go for it ! I TOTALLY agree, the 28 1.4 Lux in my experience is a far more enjoyable and creative lens than either the 35 1.4 APSH Lux or any of the 28's from Leica. It can do so much more than any of those lenses plus its very sharp on center yet possesses a wonderful out of focus rendering. One of the top modern Leica lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELAN Posted March 18, 2021 Author Share #55 Posted March 18, 2021 Spring. M10, 35 AA wide open, MFD'ish, ND3 (SOOC with LEICA M10 profile) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 8 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/304250-35mm-summilux-aspherical-aa-sample-images/?do=findComment&comment=4163416'>More sharing options...
ELAN Posted March 18, 2021 Author Share #56 Posted March 18, 2021 11 minutes ago, Steven said: Such a beautiful rendering. Which ND do you use ? This photo with B+W ND3 F-Pro. I prefer the MRC-Nano but can’t find mine. In general I dislike ND filters because they vignette and alter the colors. My #1 wish for the M11 is 1/8000 shutter speed and 50 base ISO so ND filters are no longer required for f/1.4 in daylight. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Jefferson Posted March 19, 2021 Share #57 Posted March 19, 2021 9 hours ago, Steven said: Well put The difference is bigger than a stop of light. Go for it ! Hence, people often search for 35 with characters and drama. I didn't quite like the 35APO when I first saw the samples and commented as such. That clinical and clean rendering probably only take away the joy from already clean focal length, IMHO. I still keep my 35/2 asph as it might come in handy to shoot something clean and formal. At the same time already start saving up for a 28lux! 😳 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JMF Posted March 20, 2021 Share #58 Posted March 20, 2021 Hello, a couple more shots taken with the 35 AA on the M9M 🙂 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Best, Jean-Marc Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Best, Jean-Marc ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/304250-35mm-summilux-aspherical-aa-sample-images/?do=findComment&comment=4164695'>More sharing options...
Guest JMF Posted March 23, 2021 Share #59 Posted March 23, 2021 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/304250-35mm-summilux-aspherical-aa-sample-images/?do=findComment&comment=4166735'>More sharing options...
Guest JMF Posted April 2, 2021 Share #60 Posted April 2, 2021 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 35 Summilux AA on M10 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 35 Summilux AA on M10 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/304250-35mm-summilux-aspherical-aa-sample-images/?do=findComment&comment=4173142'>More sharing options...
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