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Greetings,

I'm contemplating trying LR classic on my desktop Mac. Does anyone know if LR will automatically display the "digital zoom crop" lines on RAW files?

I'm moving away from shooting in both JPEG/RAW. On my Q the preview image will display the "digital crop" lines when I shoot exclusively in RAW.  I wonder if that is automatically carried over when using LR classic. I understand that one can alter/adjust the "crop" in LR, but my question is whether the "zoom crop lines" are automatically displayed?

 

 

 

 

 

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I'm not sure I understand what you are asking. When I use the  35mm, 50mm, etc digital crop the crop guide for the selected zoom is displayed on the Q/Q2. When shooting in DNG and using LR the image is displayed with the non-destructive crop applied. If you press r in LR Classic or c in LR CC you are taken into the crop view where the crop lines are shown superimposed on the full image. This will be the same guide line (albeit with different shading) that you saw in the Q as long as you haven't yet changed the crop in LR.

What you can't do in LR is easily switch between the different crops. I suppose that you could have some presets to do this. 

 

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On 6/11/2019 at 3:27 PM, Matsaly said:

Greetings,

I'm contemplating trying LR classic on my desktop Mac. Does anyone know if LR will automatically display the "digital zoom crop" lines on RAW files?

I'm moving away from shooting in both JPEG/RAW. On my Q the preview image will display the "digital crop" lines when I shoot exclusively in RAW.  I wonder if that is automatically carried over when using LR classic. I understand that one can alter/adjust the "crop" in LR, but my question is whether the "zoom crop lines" are automatically displayed?

Easy way to get what you want: 

  • Make a set of Q2 test exposures at 28mm, 35mm, 50mm, 75mm
  • Import into LR
  • Go to Develop
  • Pick the 28mm frame
  • Save a preset choosing only the crop edit
  • Pick the 35mm frame
  • Save a preset choosing only the crop edit
  • Pick the 50mm frame
  • Save a preset choosing only the crop edit
  • Pick the 75mm frame
  • Save a preset choosing only the crop edit
  • (optional) Name the presets Q2-28_crop, Q2-35_crop, etc

Now open any Q2 raw file. Press the R key. You can see the crop lines on the full frame by choosing the different presets you made, one after the other. 

Bonus: Since LR isn't actually setting the crops by pixel dimension, you can apply them to any camera's raw files. You just won't get the pixel output from other cameras that you do from the Q2, of course.  :)

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On 6/12/2019 at 11:08 AM, iRandom said:

I'm not sure I understand what you are asking. When I use the  35mm, 50mm, etc digital crop the crop guide for the selected zoom is displayed on the Q/Q2. When shooting in DNG and using LR the image is displayed with the non-destructive crop applied. If you press r in LR Classic or c in LR CC you are taken into the crop view where the crop lines are shown superimposed on the full image. This will be the same guide line (albeit with different shading) that you saw in the Q as long as you haven't yet changed the crop in LR.

What you can't do in LR is easily switch between the different crops. I suppose that you could have some presets to do this. 

 

I've never used LR. My goal is to have the DNG files automatically display the "crop line" (ex: 35mm, 50mm. etc) I choose when taking the picture. I use the Q (eventually Q2) mostly for travel photography. When you take thousands of photos over the course of few days/weeks it's difficult to recall exactly what you envisioned when you took the photo.

If I understand you correctly, you are saying that LR automatically displays the full DNG image with the pre-selected (ex: 35mm, 50mm ) digital crop lines superimposed. As its a "non-destructive" crop I infer that one can either use the pre-selected crop or alter to any other crop desired. If so that feature will be very helpful. 

 

 

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LR will show the cropped view by default. Press r in LR Classic or c in LR CC to see the original full image with the crop lines super imposed. This actually takes you into the crop tool so that you can adjust to taste.

So far LR is the only tool I've found that uses the crop info from the DNG. That is one reason why I continue to use it. I've requested that Apple Photos and RAW Power support this as well. I'd request it from Luminar but I'm not sure if they'd ever get around to it.

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8 hours ago, ramarren said:

Easy way to get what you want: 

  • Make a set of Q2 test exposures at 28mm, 35mm, 50mm, 75mm
  • Import into LR
  • Go to Develop
  • Pick the 28mm frame
  • Save a preset choosing only the crop edit
  • Pick the 35mm frame
  • Save a preset choosing only the crop edit
  • Pick the 50mm frame
  • Save a preset choosing only the crop edit
  • Pick the 75mm frame
  • Save a preset choosing only the crop edit
  • (optional) Name the presets Q2-28_crop, Q2-35_crop, etc

Now open any Q2 raw file. Press the R key. You can see the crop lines on the full frame by choosing the different presets you made, one after the other. 

Bonus: Since LR isn't actually setting the crops by pixel dimension, you can apply them to any camera's raw files. You just won't get the pixel output from other cameras that you do from the Q2, of course.  :)

Given that I haven't tried LR yet this seems a little over my head but I get the idea. An excellent suggestion for a workflow. Thanks!

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11 hours ago, ramarren said:

Easy way to get what you want: 

  • Make a set of Q2 test exposures at 28mm, 35mm, 50mm, 75mm
  • Import into LR
  • Go to Develop
  • Pick the 28mm frame
  • Save a preset choosing only the crop edit
  • Pick the 35mm frame
  • Save a preset choosing only the crop edit
  • Pick the 50mm frame
  • Save a preset choosing only the crop edit
  • Pick the 75mm frame
  • Save a preset choosing only the crop edit
  • (optional) Name the presets Q2-28_crop, Q2-35_crop, etc

Now open any Q2 raw file. Press the R key. You can see the crop lines on the full frame by choosing the different presets you made, one after the other. 

Bonus: Since LR isn't actually setting the crops by pixel dimension, you can apply them to any camera's raw files. You just won't get the pixel output from other cameras that you do from the Q2, of course.  :)

Something was bugging me, so I looked into it in Lightroom v6.14. The problem is that Lightroom does not support embedding a crop setting into a preset. That makes the above scheme useless. Sorry about that. 

You can, however, copy and past the crop setting. So the workflow becomes a matter of manually copy-pasting the crop from the different focal length crop settings and applying them, one at a time, to any image you want to test them on. A bit cumbersome but certainly doable. 

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