Bob Ross Posted July 25, 2007 Share #41 Posted July 25, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) ............yes ............. How do I get the video 8 look with a M8 jpeg?................... without postprocessing of course Hi Imants, What we probably need here are examples of un-postprocesed in-camera B&W taken in daylight, so that we can tear them apart and see how they are video, improperly exposed or not contrast matched to the scene. All of the examples posted here are in less that optimum light and probably outside the JPEG window, mine sure was. How to get the video look? Look at it on a video device. Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted July 25, 2007 Posted July 25, 2007 Hi Bob Ross, Take a look here B/W settings on M8. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Bob Ross Posted July 25, 2007 Share #42 Posted July 25, 2007 Hi Imants,What we probably need here are examples of un-postprocesed in-camera B&W taken in daylight, so that we can tear them apart and see how they are video, improperly exposed or not contrast matched to the scene. All of the examples posted here are in less that optimum light and probably outside the JPEG window, mine sure was. How to get the video look? Look at it on a video device. Bob Since I proposed it, here is a daylight in-camera B&W without PP plus a 100% crop. The picture is just a test snapshot taken last January, but it shows the tonality between spectral highlights to black shadows, that can come out of the M8, when you are inside of the JPEG window. ISO160, contrast med. low, sharpening-off, -2/3EV, 35mm cron, no filter. So tear it up, do we have video? It is raining here again, I'm as bored as the picture. Bob Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/29538-bw-settings-on-m8/?do=findComment&comment=313558'>More sharing options...
ho_co Posted July 25, 2007 Share #43 Posted July 25, 2007 Aw come on guys - as has been said many times before, it's easy enough to simply block individual users from your own browser if you're tired of their input. Mani-- That's what magyarman referred to as the 'ignorance filter' in one of his many linguistic insights. --HC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
norm_snyder Posted July 25, 2007 Share #44 Posted July 25, 2007 i am about the original post........... what am i about ?? common........ all your digital m8 b/w ????? what is the differance between m8 and cannon ....... ah.... the fact that leica legend is partly connected with b/w photography?????????? because sean reid and michale reichman say what they say ??? nonesense...... they also said many other things ...... too many other things..... so posting b/w m8 files and feeding people with that bulshit now ??? the truth is that even TMAX and DELTA 100 look amazingly sexy b/w photography comared to all those m8 b/w (and any other digital).................. this is the original thread.................. how to make JPEG/RAW/WHATEVER that will look like B/W films..................... no.......... NO ............ U CANNOT make it ............ U CANNOT MAKE IT like film........ and if u think that u can then u r ignorant and KITSCH.............. USE FILM if this is your DESIRE to make B/W that looks like film............ These are recording media--film and digital--the purpose of which is to provide visual, two dimensional documentation [i didn't say documentary representation], and which succeed in doing so. I concur with the view that the "look" one prefers might be best accoplished in one or the other of the platforms, and that, just as we might select a particular 35mm lens for its qualities [see Carsten's ongoing thread of the various 35's and Sean's comprehensive test of several lenses on his site], we might opt to shoot and use as a recording medium film or digital, and then print either by digital or analog means to accomplish a particular representational goal. If we have a preference for one, it might still interest us to try to emulate the other, if that is the look we prefer, or have envisioned. Unless I am mistaken, this is becoming a thread diverted into a "which is better" discussion, exhaustively addressed in numerous previous threads. I seem to recall that I once felt that no enlarging paper that existed could ever get me prints like those I managed on Velour Black. Then I began to feel that the "original" Agfa Brovira, with its allegedly greater silver content, could produce prints better than any I might ever manage again with new materials. So, too, the history, as I understand it, of the scandal that erupted around the inadequacies of acetate films. Perhaps Collodion prints were better. Why not aspire, in all these situations, to accomplish a look that might approach our [preconceived] vision of how photographs should look. T-Max is never going to look like Royal-X Pan--but I can strive to get as close to that look I prefer as possible with the materials available to me, or those which I can use effectively to accomplish my photographic ends. If others like the result, fine with me. If not, so be it. I do have the luxury of being able to be my own patron. Finally, I have to remember advice I've been given about not feeding trolls... --NS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted July 25, 2007 Share #45 Posted July 25, 2007 Bob I've been watching for a long time and the bus ain't moving.... I haven't seen birds flying past.................maybe Quicktime doesn't recognise a Video 8 platform................... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ross Posted July 25, 2007 Share #46 Posted July 25, 2007 Bob I've been watching for a long time and the bus ain't moving.... I haven't seen birds flying past.................maybe Quicktime doesn't recognise a Video 8 platform................... keep watching and maybe the folks cleaning that thing will come back out from their cocktail break:) When I took this shot, I wanted to see what the tonality looked like and how much detail was rendered. Detail was fine for printing, but to the compulsive PPer in me, it isn't exactly to my liking tonally, probably too linear. The highlights are better than I expected. The long midtone range tends to be flat towards the shadows. As Norm pointed out, we expect a tonality of a certain kind of print paper response, while looking at a monitor image. At least, if we know what we want, the M8 can give you a good starting point. Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted July 26, 2007 Share #47 Posted July 26, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) No real blacks or whites...... placed your image into Gradiant Map 255 white 0 black, sliders not used a whole new ball game Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/29538-bw-settings-on-m8/?do=findComment&comment=313919'>More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted July 26, 2007 Share #48 Posted July 26, 2007 Pretty standard adjustment whether colour of b&w. Set the black and white points and introduce a bit of an 'S' curve. I do this either in a curves layer or let Exposure do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted July 26, 2007 Share #49 Posted July 26, 2007 A myriad of ways to do it...........black white and play with the middle,,,,,,,alternatively a hint of sharpening if you like the dominance of mid tones without real blacks or whites Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted July 26, 2007 Share #50 Posted July 26, 2007 Agreed, perhaps the only point worth making is that straight b&w conversion by desaturation can look flat and lifeless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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