vic vic Posted July 17, 2007 Share #1 Posted July 17, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) hi all...... as some of you may already know, i develop a website that will be a helpful source for those who want to photograph with film, new comers or already experienced ......... please.......... take a look at the site......... the dignity of photography it is under development, but your remarks may help making it more efficient.... for exampple...... take a look at the "film selection" page from the site.......... is the discription of the films is too long, maybe too short, is it informative enough and clear ?????? etc etc............. say anything that comes to your mind....... i will take the things into concidiration of course and will see how to improve and make it helpful to those who are intreseted in film........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mark Antony Posted July 17, 2007 Share #2 Posted July 17, 2007 Hi Vic rating films is really hard, as you know I do it a little on my blog. I thought about having a Pro's and Con's section, that may work for some films but it rather depends on the end user. For instance XP2 could have a Pro for no grain, but for some that could be a con. I also thought of a star or 9/10 rating system but again its a little subjective. I think Foma 200 is almost box speed in Rodinal (or is to my test) while others rate it at 100, depends on method I guess and all my opinions are just that-opinion. just my 2¢ Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic vic Posted July 17, 2007 Author Share #3 Posted July 17, 2007 wait mark...... u say that my reviews have too much subjective tendencies in it ??? i do try to give a mire "objective" discription of what this or that film can make, but true.... i dont try to be that objective...... the question is whether it is disturbing for the reader and non-informative ?? i do agree with u..... just ratings and just pro-cons lists are childish a little bit......... i do like the way u describe your films...... deferent than i do, but in my view it is very informative..... i do understand what are your priorities when u try some film, i do understand how u evaluate your tests .......... simple and informative, at least to person who is femiliar with film photography......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Antony Posted July 17, 2007 Share #4 Posted July 17, 2007 No Victor I don't think you're are too subjective, but I'm referring to personal preference, which must surely appear in any recommendation. Thats OK because you often state that it is your preference and that is good because the reader understands that when you like say you prefer, HP5 over Tri-X that is what it is your opinion. I try to be simplistic with my reviews, they are aimed really at people who are new to film photography or just exploring possibilities of using film. I also like to put up actual photos with 100% crops, this is more contentious as the images are digitised and include scanner noise, so they are only posted to give a 'feel' of the product, some will like to see how much grain can I expect etc. The biggest hit google wise for film on my site is the Fomapan. People are very interested in those films (and they should be) because of good price and often want to see examples. I have deliberately 'tested' films that aren't market leaders in most cases and may not test TMax 100 or 400 at all, lot of people know what to expect from those emulsions compare that to Adox and Foma where people have little experience of those great films. BTW APX is my all time favourite too, but at the moment we have an embarrassment of riches considering 'film is dead' Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve kessel Posted July 17, 2007 Share #5 Posted July 17, 2007 Vic I've just started shooting black and white film. For a newcomer your film section is interesting, personal which is nice and a good point of comparison. For example a professional printer is guiding me and has recommended I use Kodak Tri X ISO400, so I now have your views on this film and others I might want to try in due course. The fact that I've seen your posts on this forum and formed an impression of you enriches what I get from your site. Good luck with it. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic vic Posted July 18, 2007 Author Share #6 Posted July 18, 2007 steve thanks man....... im glad that u find it informative and helpful for u....... and wish u best woth your film photography of course ) the website wil be developed on very soon and there will be more and more insight........ as both me and mark say........ our overviews of film are a good starting point ...... piont of referance and comparison........... and indeed, the truth is that b/w photography is such an individual thing..... and that is its beauty........ one may like this material and the other will not even touch it.......... the materials are good but overall, b.w photography is shaped through many of its variables and the attitudes of the photographer....... it is a very individual art and craft...... mark, ya sure man..... i understand and willing hear what u say........ about scaning............ ya... i dont not do it....... the reasons are simple...... i dont really beleive in interent as representative....... although one may get some clue if the samples are well prepared (like u do it)............ and the most improtant........ my evaluation (especially of b.w) is through printing in the darkroom....... so i dont even concider the scanning of b/w as main point of referance to film evaluation..... i do notice whether the film is well scnnable or not.. but that is it more or less..... in fact, when i make some assignment when b/w involved, i ususally make a print and then scan from the print and that is the file for further publishing use etc............... creo with oxygen scans fantastically the b/w films relativly to any scanner i know, but still, it is not b/w as a good print from darkroom and then print scan.... it is about the optical reproduction of the film rather than a super accurate but not so coherent scan reproduction......... it is especialy true for fast speed films because of the way that the grain looks and sharpness illusion (like hp5) from the fast films in darkoom print......... but it is not only that.. it is also baout that tonality even with slow films......... but since the post production and publishing steps for most magazines and alike reduce the quality and the character anyway, it is sometimes more than accaptable to scan a b/w film directly when for this kind of publishing (commercial stuff) anyway...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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