My fear of moving to Leica (Q or M10)

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53 minutes ago, carbon_dragon said:

I've had the M8, 9, and 10 over the last decade or so and they're aren't any more prone to collecting dust than any other digital I have had -- Canon 5D, Sony Nex-7, Sony A350, and so on. In fact they're LESS prone due to the shutter covering the sensor. And the Q should be even less so. It would have to come with the dust from the factory.

The M10 has an interesting feature where you take a picture according to the instructions while selecting dust sensing. You get a photograph with all the dust shown in a black and white image. It doesn't clean it for you though. I bought mine used and there was some dust on the sensor. Remember mine was used. I did the detect and got my image with the dust shown and then did the rocket blower thing with the camera upside down vigorously, but not touching the sensor. Then I did another detect and it looked clean.

Typically you can see dust as an imperfection in the image that is in the same position in a bunch of pictures. And you detect it best with a solid background such as sky or a white wall at a particular aperture. So  even if you don't have a means of detecting it, you can upload all your images and flash quickly between them and often you can see a spot that is there in all images, or most of them (aperture changes after all). 

Frankly I have had less issues with dust over the years in digitals than I have had with dust on my negatives.

Thank you! I liked your experience! That's the reason I posted. I want to read people's experiences using the M10 or the Q. Yes, when I see dust in the images taken with my other cameras I clean the sensor and problem is solved. I mean this kind of dust problems --> 

1 hour ago, pico said:

I have eleven M cameras from the IIIg to M10 and none have dust in the viewfinder/rangefinder.

 

Thanks for telling your experience! I would like to hear all kind of experiences ❤️

47 minutes ago, otto.f said:

+1

YouAreTheDistance but I sincerely advise you to get closer to the M10, dive into it! You talk about ‘a lottery’. That is plain gossip, or what they call it today: fake news. The adjustment of the RF is only sometimes necessary after a fall and this in situations where every other camera, at least many many other camera’s would have been total loss. But of course it is cheaper to buy a $750 camera and renew that every two years. That’ll give you 20 years before you reach the break even point. You can only enjoy the Leica system if you can afford forgetting the prices they ask. The second hand value of bodies is high, but not as high as in the analogue era. You could aslo start with a used M9P from a renowned dealer. The price of an M10 is very high, higher than for an SL for instance, which is simply more allround. If you keep on looking at that price (although it is a gift) you will have difficulties enjoying that camera. 

Thank you for the explanation! I never had problems with my cameras or lenses from Canon, Lumix or Sony, but I've read a lot of bad experiences all over the Internet. The same than when I started to read this forum. That's like buying a lottery, right? hahaha. If you have bad luck you buy the defective one. I hope I have good luck when I buy the Leica! And it's not about the price, I have a camera body more expensive than the Leicas, but I know it's a tank and I feel confortable when using it👍🏻

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12 minutes ago, evikne said:

In forums like this, users will very often write about all kinds of problems they have. So reading on the Internet will give you a very false impression of reality. The vast majority, who live lucky with no problems, they don't talk about it. So don't worry too much and let your heart decide, not your fear.

Wise words. That's what @erl said. The heart and the head usually have different opinions😂I'm sure whatever I purchase I will enjoy. In fact I like both (M and Q) systems!