doubice Posted July 12, 2007 Share #1 Posted July 12, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Well, My new M8 finally arrived…….. First thing, I noticed that the rangefinder was horizontally misaligned. After patiently charging the battery while reading the manual I inserted an SD card, charged battery, and powered it on. Browsing through the menu, I tried changing the ASA and setting the camera to DNG, but could not find it in the menu. Nowhere…… Read the manual again…… Tried again….. Nothing. As per the manual, after the camera powers up, a ‘picture parameters menu’ should be displayed on the display. It does not……. No matter what I do, I cannot find it browsing through the main menu, nor can I bring it up any other way. Am I dumb, or is the camera? Serial number is 3 111 688, from May 2007 shipment, firmware is 1.092. I thought that I should download the latest firmware, but apparently I need a 2GB card for that – all I have now are 3 1GB cards. I am not new to digital – Digilux 2, Panasonic DMC-FZ30, D-Lux 2 (wife’s) and Canon G6 are currently in the digital stable. Well – the Digilux 2 is in the New Jersey care facility for a new sensor. To say that I am disappointed is an understatement. Am I doing something wrong? HELP! Jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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huwge Posted July 12, 2007 Share #2 Posted July 12, 2007 Jan, you don't access ISO or picture quality via MENU, you need to hit the SET button. Bottom left. Huw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwelland Posted July 12, 2007 Share #3 Posted July 12, 2007 Press the Set button to bring up the image settings screen - exposure comp. ISO, DNG/jpg etc. Once you have a set of settings that you like, you can go to the Menu and save as one of the 3 presets. BTW: you don't need a 2GB card to install the firmware. It's MUCH smaller than that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted July 12, 2007 Share #4 Posted July 12, 2007 With the camera on and no menu showing on the LCD screen hit the SET button one time. That is the menu you are looking for. Sorry but try reading the manual slowly. Page 93 & 94 of the German/English manual. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordfanjpn Posted July 12, 2007 Share #5 Posted July 12, 2007 Browsing through the menu, I tried changing the ASA and setting the camera to DNG, but could not find it in the menu. Nowhere…… Read the manual again…… Tried again….. Nothing. What you want is the SET menu, where you can set both the ISO (as opposed to ASA) and choose DNG format. Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted July 12, 2007 Share #6 Posted July 12, 2007 No point reading the manual if you don't take in what it says... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravastar Posted July 12, 2007 Share #7 Posted July 12, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) You don't need a 2GB card to do the firmware upgrade. As long as the card has enough capacity to hold the update file (4.5MB) you should be fine. In fact some people have found a use for the small capacity eg. 64MB cards given away free with purchases as ideal for keeping upgrades on. If you want to keep the firmware on the card after the upgrade don't forget to set the mechanical write protect switch on the card to 'write protect' before you do the upgrade. After the upgrade the camera will try to erase the card. Don't forget to unzip the downloaded file to get the upd file. Transfer the upd file to the root (absolute top level, not in a folder) directory on the SD card. Bob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubice Posted July 12, 2007 Author Share #8 Posted July 12, 2007 No point reading the manual if you don't take in what it says... Hi Mark, I speak and read English, German, French, Czech and some Russian. Either hitting the 'Set' button escaped me or, the manual was not clear enough for my language abilities.... Best, Jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubice Posted July 12, 2007 Author Share #9 Posted July 12, 2007 Thanks to everybody! Camera is at home, I am in the office now. Can't wait to get back home! Now hopefully all I have to deal with is the misaligned rangefinder. Since I also use the 2.8/135mm goggled Elmarit which has a 1.5 finder magnification, the misalignment is even more obvious with it. I have done this adjustment many times in the past on various M's but, don't think I will attempt it on the M8. Best, Jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted July 12, 2007 Share #10 Posted July 12, 2007 A 2mm Allen key is all it needs. With a bit of patience, it could hardly go wrong. However, it adjusts the focusing at all distances simultaneously, so be careful not to trade one ill for another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubice Posted July 12, 2007 Author Share #11 Posted July 12, 2007 A 2mm Allen key is all it needs. With a bit of patience, it could hardly go wrong. However, it adjusts the focusing at all distances simultaneously, so be careful not to trade one ill for another. Hi Carsten, What I need to adjust is the horizontal misalignment, not infinity. That would entail removing the red Leica button and probably leaving marks - not something I want to do on a camera that is still under warranty. Thanks, Jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted July 12, 2007 Share #12 Posted July 12, 2007 That's the vertical alignment. The horizontal alignment is the focus. If you need to adjust the vertical alignment, you can take off the lens, put the camera upside down, and use wooden matches (wooden end; not fire end) to push the L and a alternatingly until the dot becomes loose. It took me 15 minutes and many matches, but this way there are no scratches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted July 12, 2007 Share #13 Posted July 12, 2007 That's the vertical alignment. The horizontal alignment is the focus. If you need to adjust the vertical alignment, you can take off the lens, put the camera upside down, and use wooden matches (wooden end; not fire end) to push the L and a alternatingly until the dot becomes loose. It took me 15 minutes and many matches, but this way there are no scratches. Carsten that works except that on the one I did that on and then looked inside the hole the verticle allignment bar was locked down with some type of sealant (Lacquer or other substance) so Leica would know if it was tampered with and to help hold it in place, I suspect. That was on the newest one I have serial # 319xxxx black. To the OP. I've had 3 135/2.8 Elmarit's with eyes, 2 first versions and 1 second version, and all of them showed a offset of the verticle allignment. All of those lenses are off in the eyes verticle allignment adjustment making you think the camera is off. The second version is user adjustable, although difficult to do. The first version eyes are locked down with some type of glue so if you try to adjust them you can break the glass. You have to watch what you are focusing on when you think the cameras verticle allignment is off. If the camera is pointed up or down and tilted silghtly it can give you a false sense that the allignment is off. Also make sure you don't need a diopter lens. Once I got the right one for me focusing became so much easier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted July 12, 2007 Share #14 Posted July 12, 2007 horizontal misalignmen.....so whatever happened to that famous quality control that is bandied about. This isn't an isolated case. Why on earth do they let it contiue or is Leica sacrificing quality for sales and become like the rest of them...................no doubt someone will defend and make a excuse , ...............eventually I will buy but............. maybe not at this rate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubice Posted July 13, 2007 Author Share #15 Posted July 13, 2007 That's the vertical alignment. The horizontal alignment is the focus. You're correct, Carsten. I guess what I had in mind was alignment of the rangefinder image along the horizontal axis, as opposed to along the vertical axis. Have done it many times on M2, 3, 4, 5 etc.- as you say, it is a very simple adjustment. Best, Jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubice Posted July 13, 2007 Author Share #16 Posted July 13, 2007 To the OP. I've had 3 135/2.8 Elmarit's with eyes, 2 first versions and 1 second version, and all of them showed a offset of the verticle allignment. All of those lenses are off in the eyes verticle allignment adjustment making you think the camera is off. The second version is user adjustable, although difficult to do. The first version eyes are locked down with some type of glue so if you try to adjust them you can break the glass. You have to watch what you are focusing on when you think the cameras verticle allignment is off. If the camera is pointed up or down and tilted silghtly it can give you a false sense that the allignment is off. Also make sure you don't need a diopter lens. Once I got the right one for me focusing became so much easier. Hi Ed, It is definitely the camera's rangefinder that is off - noticed it right away when I mounted a 35mm Summicron. I am using the 2.8/135mm lens on an M6 0.72 and M7 0.85, the image is perfectly aligned with those, so there is no need to adjust the 'eyes'. Actually, on an M3 finder and also on the 0.85 finder, the eye's alignment is critical due to the finder's greater accuracy and magnification. I've seen quite a few 'eyes' with cracks and no other physical damage - that would have been from somebody trying to adjust the alignment wthout proper know-how. As to having the camera tilted to produce a false perception of misalignment - I am aware of this, having used many Leicas during my last 40 years.... (kind of gives away the age, doesn't it?) No glasses needed yet though..... Best, Jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahl Posted July 20, 2007 Share #17 Posted July 20, 2007 Hi Jan, Sorry to hear about your problem with the rangefinder. As The camera was delivered with a fault I do not think you should put up with the inconvenience and possible considerable delay returning the body for adjustment. Return it to your dealer and request a replacement. Alain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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