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18 hours ago, robbie3 said:

Thanks JaSko,

I’m interested in what it is that gives the wide open photo more life for you?

Is it the slight glow or dreaminess (a lack of perfection in the image, while still being reasonably sharp)?

For this kind of image I think wide open can work well if you’re after a slightly dreamy, but not too trippy, look:

  1. Focus/main subject is on a flat plane
  2. Main subject is perpendicular to the sensor
  3. No point light sources to show the coma effect.

Things become trickier with more complex photos with subjects at differing depths.

Robbie3, you defined it perfectly clear by yourself - lack of perfection in the image, while still being reasonably sharp. And 3 points you mentioned have sense, I did not think about that. Lux Pre Asph is really a fantastic lens, just change it from 1.4 to 2 and you have completely different photo. For me it works best on M240, this camera started new life after I purchased Lux 35 V2. 

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35mm Summilux v1 1964 + M10-P

 

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M10, 35mm Summilux v2

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The continuation of the train track from my previous post.

M11-P, 35mm Summilux v2

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M11-P, 35mm Summilux v2 @ f1/4

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Hello pre-asph fans

I was visiting Wetzlar last week and in the Leitz Museum came across this 35:1.4 prototype from 1950's, the "Campolux" .  Thought I'd post here as never heard of it before.  Same housing as v1 of course launched 1961.    Text and Pic below. 

Another pre-asph sighting was in a video accompanying Joel Meyerowitz's (brilliant!) exhibition "The Pleasure of Seeing" , in which JM was using a v2 .  Unfortunately, I couldn't make out the batch-number so we'll never know if his lens is capable of taking good photos or not  🤭 

 

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Also discovered that this image by Thomas Hoepker was taken with summilux v1 , apparently at F2.    

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2 minutes ago, grahamc said:

Hello pre-asph fans

I was visiting Wetzlar last week and in the Leitz Museum came across this 35:1.4 prototype from 1950's, the "Campolux" .  Thought I'd post here as never heard of it before.  Same housing as v1 of course launched 1961.    Text and Pic below. 

Another pre-asph sighting was in a video accompanying Joel Meyerowitz's (brilliant!) exhibition "The Pleasure of Seeing" , in which JM was using a v2 .  Unfortunately, I couldn't make out the batch-number so we'll never know if his lens is capable of taking good photos or not 🤭 

 

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Thank you! I've never heard of it either. It would be fun to see some pictures taken with this lens.

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7 minutes ago, evikne said:

Thank you! I've never heard of it either. It would be fun to see some pictures taken with this lens.

It is definitely a prototype, see the number. A very valuable collectors piece that might not work as a lens.

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1 hour ago, grahamc said:

Also discovered that this image by Thomas Hoepker was taken with summilux v1 , apparently at F2.    

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Must have been a big crop on that hand with a 1m min focus!

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4 minutes ago, evikne said:

You are right. I haven't thought about that.

He could have been using the goggled version which is around 0.65 but even then, the detail retained in the fist is impressive. Who needs 60mp!

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4 hours ago, costa43 said:

He could have been using the goggled version which is around 0.65 but even then, the detail retained in the fist is impressive. Who needs 60mp!

This has me wondering if he had a specially modified v1 with close focus? Later tonight I'll look my magnum contact sheets book to see if they have it.  I'm wondering if this is it: https://store.magnumphotos.com/products/contact-sheet-print-muhammad-ali If so, doesn't look like much of a crop so I'm confused.

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2 hours ago, Crem said:

This has me wondering if he had a specially modified v1 with close focus? Later tonight I'll look my magnum contact sheets book to see if they have it.  I'm wondering if this is it: https://store.magnumphotos.com/products/contact-sheet-print-muhammad-ali If so, doesn't look like much of a crop so I'm confused.

I found this link with confirmation of the lens used, albeit by a 3rd party and like you say, it’s quite confusing as to how he did it if it wasn’t a heavy crop.

https://gmpphoto.blogspot.com/2022/04/muhammad-ali-by-thomas-hoepker-iconic.html

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1 hour ago, costa43 said:

I found this link with confirmation of the lens used, albeit by a 3rd party and like you say, it’s quite confusing as to how he did it if it wasn’t a heavy crop.

https://gmpphoto.blogspot.com/2022/04/muhammad-ali-by-thomas-hoepker-iconic.html

I'm looking at the famous Ali photo (and the contact sheet for it) in the big book of Magnum Contact sheets. It's the same contact sheet I previously linked to. It looks roughly like a 15% crop. The book says it was taken on a Leica, but doesn't mention the lens. To me it still seems like a 50 or longer assuming a min focus distance of 1m or even 0.7m. I don't have a goggled v1 to test out though now I want one!

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