Albert4321 Posted September 7, 2007 Share #21 Posted September 7, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) My wedding kit consists of: -2 M8s -M7 -21 Elmarit ASPH -35 Summilux ASPH -50 Summilux ASPH Riccis, I love your work! Question: I remember reading your early post in RF forum that you shot your 1st M8 wedding with the 35con. Did you switch to the 35lux for the faster speed? how do you compare it with the con? Seeing your work was half the reason I got the M8. I have it for three weeks and shot 4 gigs with it and the 50lux (along with my Canons). I am loving the m8 and thinking to get a 2nd body. But I need to sell most of the Canon and Contax gears first. Albert. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Riccis Posted September 7, 2007 Author Share #22 Posted September 7, 2007 Albert: Thanks for your kind comments. Your memory is very good. I love to shoot wide open and as soon as I was able to get my hands on a 35 lux, I replaced the cron... I have also added a Noctilux to the list (it does not replace the 50 Summilux though) but it is my reception lens (wide open, of course) IQ wise, both the 35 cron and lux are excellent (please keep in mind that I'm not a pixel peeper and don't bother to view my images at 100% on the screen, so others my disagree with me). The lux is a little bit larger, but like I stated before I need the fastest lens I can get. I am humbled by your comments about my work making you give the M8 a try. Once again, thank you. Feel free to reach out to me anytime if you have any questions... I'm traveling a lot, but will always get back to you at my earliest convenience. Best, Riccis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arif Posted September 8, 2007 Share #23 Posted September 8, 2007 Hi Riccis, I just wanted to write a few lines to tell you that I enjoyed your work here very much. You do a great job of capturing the moment and the feelings very eloquently. I also wanted to thank you for giving me many new ideas as I set out to explore my new M8 camera and looking for ways to unlearn some of my DSLR mental models. Thank you for sharing and if you are ever in Tokyo, please let me know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccis Posted September 8, 2007 Author Share #24 Posted September 8, 2007 Arif: Thank you very much for your comments about my work. It is also very humbling to learn that I am helping you find new inspiration and I am just happy to be able to give back to other fellow photographers in any way possible. I cover weddings all over the world and will definitely reach out to you when I am commissioned to come over to Japan. The invitation is also extended if you ever get to visit Florida. Best, Riccis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffwros Posted September 8, 2007 Share #25 Posted September 8, 2007 Riccis - If there is any way you can borrow a Noctilux you might want to try it at a reception before you buy it. As much as I loved mine when I had it I felt the longer focus throw was a factor when trying to catch candids at the reception. It was just slow (for me) to use. YMMV and if you find you enjoy using the Nocti at weddings I'll enjoy seeing your images using it. Excellent work, everyone! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted September 8, 2007 Share #26 Posted September 8, 2007 I personally don't go much beyond 640. I'd rather push in post, though I do shoot 1250 if I need to. The very best flash I've seen for the M8 is the Canon 580 V2, which has an Auto Thyristor sensor on it that adjusts output throughout the ISO and aperture range (IOW, it turns down ) Bounced, it loses precisely 1 stop of light, so I just fool the flash with the ISO setting. I don't like the look of flash, so I only use it when I need to; however, with something that can be adjusted well and bounced, it doesn't have to look like flash at all. Irakly--wonderful stuff--I love your work too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest s.m.e.p. Posted September 8, 2007 Share #27 Posted September 8, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I am so happy that I have good assignments so I don´t have to shot this kitschy wedding stuff! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted September 8, 2007 Share #28 Posted September 8, 2007 Ahem. Resuming the actual discussion, and back to those of us with good assignments, weddings, and no kitsch... Irakly-- How many photographers were at that wedding? I counted at least three other than someone (you?) with the M8 BTW--I really love the later reception stuff--wonderfully lit and very kinetic too! I also really like the formal on the stairs and the shots of the bracelets (though honestly they're all pretty great. Who was the guy standing on the, um, building? ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manatee Posted September 9, 2007 Share #29 Posted September 9, 2007 WOW! The best wedding photography work I have seen so far. Thanks for sharing. Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
egibaud Posted September 9, 2007 Share #30 Posted September 9, 2007 I am really impressed by your work Ricci (other works mentioned here such as Sean's and ups sorry, cannot remember the name of our Russian friend, are also great) I have several questions - 2 M8 bodies. what lense do you carry on each one "by default"? - I understand discretion, although you are on contract and people do not bother you are there is always good so you can catch natural looks, so, do you have both cameras around your neck, or do you have an assistant follow you everywhere do handle the second body to you? Maybe it is just a back up camera and you just switch lenses as needed... - I love the reportage way you cover a wedding, and nomally photographers limit themselves to a bit of pre-church, the ceremony itself and a few pics afterwards. I see you dedicate a lot of pictures/time to the whole story. My question is how many days do you normally spend on a wedding? - Post production. Material and software you use to develop raw files (I understand you shoot raw) - Picking the pictures? how do you pick the final pictures, do your clients make the final choice out of a pre-selection you have made? do you show them a printed version or an on screen digital one? - The wedding book... yes, I imagine you do not just handle digital files to your clients. It would be good to give an idea of what you eventually give as a wedding souvenir. Do you print yourself on some high end inkjet and then build a book or do you send files to a lab and then mount the photos on a classical photobook? - The no discret question.... do you charge per wedding? for the time you spend? per photo you eventually sell (with a minimum number of photo I imagine) Sorry for so many questions. Thank you in advance for answering them. Eric Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccis Posted September 9, 2007 Author Share #31 Posted September 9, 2007 Manatee - Thanks for your comments. Glad to hear you like my work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccis Posted September 9, 2007 Author Share #32 Posted September 9, 2007 Eric: Thanks... See my answers to your questions below. I am really impressed by your work Ricci (other works mentioned here such as Sean's and ups sorry, cannot remember the name of our Russian friend, are also great) I have several questions - 2 M8 bodies. what lense do you carry on each one "by default"? A 35 and 50 lux - I understand discretion, although you are on contract and people do not bother you are there is always good so you can catch natural looks, so, do you have both cameras around your neck, or do you have an assistant follow you everywhere do handle the second body to you? Maybe it is just a back up camera and you just switch lenses as needed... Most of the time, I do have the two cameras on me, I am a pretty fast shooter and since I am always looking to capture a specific moment or expression at that pivotal time, I don't have the time to go out for the other camera or switch lenses since that moment will be long gone. It's hard to explain, but you can equate it to a sports photographer that captures a one handed TD catch... I'm I making sense?... Believe it or not, two M8s are still pretty discreet. - I love the reportage way you cover a wedding, and nomally photographers limit themselves to a bit of pre-church, the ceremony itself and a few pics afterwards. I see you dedicate a lot of pictures/time to the whole story. My question is how many days do you normally spend on a wedding? I only spend 8-10 hours at a wedding. I only do work on multiple days on my destination weddings since they pay a lot for that coverge and we usually are in a cool location where the opportunities to have a lot of great images are excellent. - Post production. Material and software you use to develop raw files (I understand you shoot raw) My RAW conversions are done in Lightroom and they only entail basic WB and exposure correction when needed. My post processing signature look (if you want to call it that ) is all done in PhotoShop with a few layers of some color tones (greenish, yellowish) that I like and some added grain. - Picking the pictures? how do you pick the final pictures, do your clients make the final choice out of a pre-selection you have made? do you show them a printed version or an on screen digital one? I am a big believer of less is more. I usually don't shoot over 1,200 images, but the clients only see the best of them... i.e, I don't show 10 images that look the same or anything that does not have any context or is a crappy snap. Since I have clients all over the world, all the proofs are put online. My shopping cart is an amazing piece of software called PickPic built by Troy Widner (http://www.pickpic.com/). Like I stated before, 95% of my clients see and approve all the design work online. - The wedding book... yes, I imagine you do not just handle digital files to your clients. It would be good to give an idea of what you eventually give as a wedding souvenir. Do you print yourself on some high end inkjet and then build a book or do you send files to a lab and then mount the photos on a classical photobook? For wedding books I only carry two companies, which IMHO are two of the best album manufactures (although they are not the cheapest, but I guess you pay for what you get) Once the client approves my album design, they are printed by my lab (http://www.whcc.com) and the rest of the work is done by the album company. Believe it or not, I still give all my clients the final converted JPEG images. I charge a lot upfront and really don't care too much about selling a bunch of 4x6 images since every professional print that gets ordered gets color corrected and retouched to perfection... I only encourage clients to buy from me the large fine art prints or B&W (those are usually printed on Epson Velvet paper) - The no discret question.... do you charge per wedding? for the time you spend? per photo you eventually sell (with a minimum number of photo I imagine) I don't have predetermined wedding packages since every client has different budgets and needs. I have a creative fee of $4,500 that includes my time and talent only (no product at all). Like I stated before, I am a believer of less is more and never commit to x number of images and once I explain this to my prospective clients they are fine with it. The creative fee for destination weddings starts at $7,000 plus travel expenses (airfare and hotel expenses) since that time away from the office means lost revenue and more important, time away from the family. Sorry for so many questions. Thank you in advance for answering them. Eric Please don't hesitate to reach out to me if you ever have any questions. Best, Riccis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert4321 Posted September 9, 2007 Share #33 Posted September 9, 2007 a lof of good questions and helpful info sharing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
egibaud Posted September 9, 2007 Share #34 Posted September 9, 2007 Thank you so much for answering my too many questions. Eric Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccis Posted September 9, 2007 Author Share #35 Posted September 9, 2007 Albert & Eric: I am glad my answers can be of help. I don't subscribe to the old school of thought where you are not supposed to "reveal your secrets" or share your knowledge. Cheers, Riccis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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