SL with b&w sensor

[DMJ]

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What chances an SL with a b&w sensor?

 

Martin

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[helged]

My guess: close to nil.

 

I would rather think that the SL needs an upgrade from the existing 24 mp sensor in order to be attractive relative to competitors. Surely, 24 mp is fine for many (most?) of us, but the combination of high cost and a lowish mp count is not the most attractive parameter combo for entailing new users to the SL system. But as stated, this is nothing but my guess.

[LD_50]

Zero

[mmradman]

If Leica ever produce B&W derivative of SL camera it better be not current SL601 but next model, with pixel count similar or higher than Sony A7r3 and Nikon D850.  I imagine such B&W camera would have limited specialist use, besides M9M and current M246 already perform admirably in 18-24Mp range.

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meanwhile...

 

[DMJ]

My guess: close to nil.

 

I would rather think that the SL needs an upgrade from the existing 24 mp sensor in order to be attractive relative to competitors. Surely, 24 mp is fine for many (most?) of us, but the combination of high cost and a lowish mp count is not the most attractive parameter combo for entailing new users to the SL system. But as stated, this is nothing but my guess.

24MP is a great compromise unless you wish to cart a tripod around with you or you have a rock solid grip. Push the MP up and then you need to push the ISO up too as no one can hand hold the camera that well. Wave your MP level at your friends in the changing rooms but not for me. Why is the 20MP Nikon D5 their top camera?

[gbealnz]

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meanwhile...

 

Yes, this was in vogue for astro use a few years back, I even found an old NEX-3 which had been "monoed", it worked well. Always wanted an X-Pro 1 done, but the guy that was doing them had made a meal of a few of the Fuji sensors, and was not interested in trying any further. For some reason the Fuji sensors are more difficult.

 

I can just imagine someone doing this to the SL sensor, yeah right.

Gary

[LD_50]

24MP is a great compromise unless you wish to cart a tripod around with you or you have a rock solid grip. Push the MP up and then you need to push the ISO up too as no one can hand hold the camera that well. Wave your MP level at your friends in the changing rooms but not for me. Why is the 20MP Nikon D5 their top camera?

The D5 (and D4s, D4, D3, etc) before are limited in resolution to prioritize overall speed and processing. It has nothing to do with optimal IQ or hand holding.

 

I’ve owned the D700 (same sensor as D3), D4, and D4s and handled numerous RAW files from the D5 when I was considering a purchase. These cameras were not about the best IQ available (D3x, D800e, D810, and D850 offer better overall IQ at the same print size as the cameras I was shooting).

[helged]

The D5 (and D4s, D4, D3, etc) before are limited in resolution to prioritize overall speed and processing. It has nothing to do with optimal IQ or hand holding.

 

I’ve owned the D700 (same sensor as D3), D4, and D4s and handled numerous RAW files from the D5 when I was considering a purchase. These cameras were not about the best IQ available (D3x, D800e, D810, and D850 offer better overall IQ at the same print size as the cameras I was shooting).

 

 

+1. The D5 is a high-end shooting machine with high frame rates, and a very quick and accurate af. And you may get (very) low-light shots that otherwise would hardly be possible (an example from the D5 at 100.000 ISO and f2.8, with very modest noise reduction in pp). And you get weather sealing. And a very rugged body. But otherwise, the sensor falls short of e.g. D810 and D850. No comparison, really.