sir_ian Posted March 3, 2017 Share #1 Posted March 3, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Do any of you ACTUALLY use this app for anything? i have been trying to use it more and more, but its insanely unreliable, but im dedicated to trying to get it to work/function properly. do any of you have constant success or just use it at all on a semi regular basis ? any tips or help is so so very welcome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bart van Hofwegen Posted March 3, 2017 Share #2 Posted March 3, 2017 Yes it has its quirks and no, I do not use it that often. I found it useful for some types of "stealth" street and documentary photography. I have the camera hanging by a strap around my neck (front facing) or shoulder (to my left or right side) and pretend to be busy doing something on my phone. Well, pretend, I am busy of course, using the app to frame, focus and take shots. "Insanely unreliable" is not my experience. "Now and then fails" would suit mine better. I believe every phone/tablet, especially Android ones, can show different behavior, not just with this app. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herve5 Posted March 3, 2017 Share #3 Posted March 3, 2017 have been using it to take pictures through a birding scope, in order to replace a remote control (no contact with the Q). Seldomly used, but with no trouble, on two android phones and an android tablet, all less than 3 years old. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
etk Posted March 3, 2017 Share #4 Posted March 3, 2017 Have tried three or four times now and find it unusable due to instability Making a connection is WAY too hit and miss and even when I do get one it often falls over for no apparent reason. Sad, it just feels really out of keeping with the rest of the experience Andrew could be useful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marchyman Posted March 3, 2017 Share #5 Posted March 3, 2017 I have used it maybe half a dozen times, mostly as a remote shutter release. It's just painful enough that when possible I use the self timer instead of the app. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvadf Posted March 3, 2017 Share #6 Posted March 3, 2017 I use it always for shots next the ground. There where no problems so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyW Posted March 3, 2017 Share #7 Posted March 3, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Gave up on it ages ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leica Guy Posted March 3, 2017 Share #8 Posted March 3, 2017 So, I freely say it's cumbersome to use, but I've successfully used it for long periods on remote control photographing birds. It works. The design is not well thought out, but I made it do what I wanted. I'm certainly glad it's available. Hopefully Firmware Rev. 3.0 someday will improve it. It would seem reasonable to expect that given how much competition Leica has for such a feature. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
millsart Posted March 4, 2017 Share #9 Posted March 4, 2017 I've had zero issues with it and have used it for taking family shots where I want to be in the image, and for trigger some tripod mounted shots. Its not perfect but it works, and its a feature that really would of been unthinkable for most of my days as a photographer. Being able to see what the camera is seeing, in the palm of my hand, and actually control the camera without wires ? Coming from a guy who used to mount lots of remote DSLR's over hockey goals, basketball backboards etc, where all you could do is trigger the camera with a Pocket Wizard radio trigger, and then at the end of the game you'd have to see what you shoot and hope you had the exposure right, or that you had a good capture, these wifi remote controls on smart phones are remarkable technology. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted March 4, 2017 Share #10 Posted March 4, 2017 .... hockey goals, basketball backboards etc, where all you could do is trigger the camera with a Pocket Wizard radio trigger, and then at the end of the game you'd have to see what you shoot .... Is the remote control over the WiFi on the Q fast enough for this kind of stuff? I have used the WiFi with some success with the C, but that was not nearly fast enough to shoot briskly moving things with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voxen Posted March 4, 2017 Share #11 Posted March 4, 2017 It's a pain to setup but once it's connected to the camera it works flawlessly on my iPhone 6. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
odds Posted March 4, 2017 Share #12 Posted March 4, 2017 Gave up on it Too soon give up? I am new to Leica, I have only had my Leica Q for a couple of weeks and I just registered to this forum a few minutes ago. After the obligatory rounds with the first line of Leica support, they tell me that my problem with the Q-App has been handed to developers. My smartphone is a Sony Xperia Z5 Compact, and I have tried it with Adroid 6 and 7 without luck. I have read all postings I can find on the Q-App topic, including one post that says the Q-App works with their Z5 Compact and one post that says removing the anti-virus solved the problem. Alas; anti-virus or not imakes no difference on my Z5. I am a bit puzzeled with the first line of support's strong focus on WiFi/WLAN connection rather than the messaging between the camera and the Q-App once the connection is established. I observe that the WLAN connection is established very quickly and that it works. It works as I would expect when the camera is host and the phone connects to it, and it works equally well when I set the camera to join an existing WLAN. As far as I can tell, the problem I experience is not related to WiFi / WLAN connectivity, but rather to data packets not being exchanged between the camera and the Q-App despite a working connection. The Q-App tells me it is searching for a camera on the network. There may be a flaw in the camera and/or in the Q-App, but my problem may also be caused by something (phone software?) blocking data traffic between the two. I can not find any firewall setup on my phone, and the camera is a black box that requires me to use various network sniffer techniques to see what is happining, or really not happening in my case. I optimistically removed the anti-virus from the phone, but that did not change anything. I will keep my hopes up and wait for answers from a Leica developer. -- Odd S. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viramati Posted March 4, 2017 Share #13 Posted March 4, 2017 I use it quite a bit for remote control and it is infinitely better and easier to use the the ones for my Fuji's and Sony's. I find it quick to connect, stable and lets you change nearly all the settings you need. The Fuji app is rally awful and the Sony one is not much better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
millsart Posted March 4, 2017 Share #14 Posted March 4, 2017 Is the remote control over the WiFi on the Q fast enough for this kind of stuff? I have used the WiFi with some success with the C, but that was not nearly fast enough to shoot briskly moving things with. No idea honestly, never tried. I've retired from the world of pro sports photography. I will simply saying that back when I was working, the idea of being able to have any sort of realtime, or even close to real time, remote view of what the camera was capturing was near unthinkable. I actually once tried this little video camera that attached to the OVF and with a long wire could send the view down a wire to a little 2" LCD. Couldn't change any camera setting with it though so it wasn't real useful but you could at least have some idea what your camera might of been seeing remotely. true remote control apps, for control and viewing/reviewing shots, and the fact they are offered on nearly every camera made today, really does show how for technology has come in a pretty short time. To me anyways Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leetmode Posted March 4, 2017 Share #15 Posted March 4, 2017 I use it to transfer some photos to my phone. I think its not that great and feel that they really need to a major update for it. One of the more annoying things is only being able to transfer 9 or 10 photos at a time, but sometimes I have found it to lose connectivity with the camera during transfer. With Sony's app I can transfer as many photos as I want and I have never lost connection. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herve5 Posted March 5, 2017 Share #16 Posted March 5, 2017 There may be a flaw in the camera and/or in the Q-App, but my problem may also be caused by something (phone software?) blocking data traffic between the two. I can not find any firewall setup on my phone, (...) no ad filter either? (I remember some are 'system-level') did you try to uninstall and reinstall the Q app, which could eliminate settings like the app is stopped somewhere in the config settings? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
odds Posted March 5, 2017 Share #17 Posted March 5, 2017 no ad filter either? Not that I know, but I will continue to look for ad filters and other on-phone software that I can think may hamper the Q-App data packet exchange. I wish Leica would be slightly more open with respect to inner workings. It may still be possible for me to reverse engineer and learn more based on assumptions, observations and by testing hypotheses with appropriate computer tools. It would be time consuming and should indeed not be necessary. The Leica support rep first told me the Q-App had to be re-installed after "any update" on the phone. So yes, I have deleted and reinstalled the Q-App at least 15 times. The Leica support rep later agreed that it should not be necessary to reinstall after "any update" made on the phone. Apps do update automatically almost every day, some Sony, some Google and some third party apps. It would become quite a mess if one app-update would require the phone user to delete and reinstall every other app on the phone, and then just have to start over because manual reinstall meant trouble for some previously reinstalled app and so on. Arguably, only Android upgrades should require a reinstall or a new version of a well designed app. I still think it is too soon for me to conclude like MickyW and give up. I do hope it becomes possible for Leica developers to pin-point what causes the problem and fix it. -- Odd S. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leica Guy Posted March 5, 2017 Share #18 Posted March 5, 2017 I've not re-installed even once after numerous iPhone updates. I do not think the app is all that bad. Some quirks, yes. But I've made it function and reliably. I may have more patience with it than it deserves, but it's my first camera which I can control remotely and I love the capability. Actually, it's my second. The Fuji X100 T has a similar app. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
odds Posted March 5, 2017 Share #19 Posted March 5, 2017 I do not think the app is all that bad. So far I have no opinion on the Q-App being good or bad. That will have to wait until the Q-App and camera manage to connect and I get to try it. Like you, I have used similar apps (with other cameras) on the very same phone without any problems. I have deleted those other apps just to make sure they do not confuse the Q-App, but that did not make any difference. I think the Q-App is the only app I know that officially needs to be reinstalled after "any phone update". And I will keep doing that to follow instructions from the Leica support representative to the letter. After a few rounds I added a phone restart before and after reinstalling the Q-App to make sure the app installer got a clean start, and next that the app itself got a clean start. I have repeated the procedure as advised, I even tried far out in the back country to escape potential interference from other WiFi. The phone connects to the Leica WLAN and the Q-App searches the Leica WLAN for a camera, but that is all, and it is pretty useless at this stage. -- Odd S. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viramati Posted March 5, 2017 Share #20 Posted March 5, 2017 So far I have no opinion on the Q-App being good or bad. That will have to wait until the Q-App and camera manage to connect and I get to try it. Like you, I have used similar apps (with other cameras) on the very same phone without any problems. I have deleted those other apps just to make sure they do not confuse the Q-App, but that did not make any difference. I think the Q-App is the only app I know that officially needs to be reinstalled after "any phone update". And I will keep doing that to follow instructions from the Leica support representative to the letter. After a few rounds I added a phone restart before and after reinstalling the Q-App to make sure the app installer got a clean start, and next that the app itself got a clean start. I have repeated the procedure as advised, I even tried far out in the back country to escape potential interference from other WiFi. The phone connects to the Leica WLAN and the Q-App searches the Leica WLAN for a camera, but that is all, and it is pretty useless at this stage. -- Odd S. Strange I have been using the app for over a year and a half and have never had to reinstall when updating my iPhones firmware. Never had a problem getting it to connect either, just used the q code the first time and then it's automatic as long as the phone is not connected to another known network. If it is then I have to manually select the Q network in the settings. As I said before I find the Leica a lot quicker and easy to connect than the Fuji x series and Sony A7 series cameras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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