i can't seem to get the Sl to shot at 11fps

[AlexP]

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with my Canon 1dx mkii, i set too al servo / H , press on the shutter button then it fire like machine gun. I saw this video on youtube and they seem to have the SL shot at 11fps. Fast.

 

 

When i try my Sl, it is slow. It is not as fast. What did i do wrong?

 

btw, how come i only have AFs and MF. I don't see AFc. Is AFc only available when you pair up with SL lens? like 24-90? i'm using Canon lens with the novoflex adapter now.

 

*update 2*: i took off the lens/adapter, and now i see AFc and i can fire it off like the video.   Once i put the adapter/ lens back, AFc gone. ???

[Ingo]

AF-C is not available, when you use the novoflex adapter. 

 

https://www.novoflex.com/en/products/adapters/adapter-finder/

 

 

NOTE: The electronic lens adapters (SL/EOS and SL/NIK) only work with Firmware 2.0 and higher installed on your Leica SL!

Both adapters were designed to extend the range of available lenses for the Leica SL. SL/EOS – Canon EF lenses. SL/NIK – Nikon E-type NIKKOR lenses.

The following functions are supported:

• Autofocus in AFs mode
• Aperture control
• AF/MF Mode
• Depth of field (values shown on upper camera display) (MF)
• EXIF Data for aperture and focal length settings

 

Not supported:

• AFc mode (c for continous)
• Image stabilization

[Guest]

Just out curiosity, why do you want to use this camera in high speed mode? It's a gimmick because It locks exposure and the AF. As lovely as a camera the SL is, it is simply not an action camera despite Leica's dishonest claim to the contrary.

 

The only situation I can think of when the high speed mode could be useful is under controlled laboratory conditions e.g. taking an image of a water droplet falling into a water container.

[Ingo]

My common use case is a speaker at a lectern. This is also a static situation and with 11fps I have a better chance to get the right facial expression.

[Guest]

Okay thanks

[Alo Ako]

...when the high speed mode could be useful is under controlled laboratory conditions ...

 

There are many outdoor conditions as well, e.g.

 

[steppenw0lf]

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Just out curiosity, why do you want to use this camera in high speed mode? It's a gimmick because It locks exposure and the AF. As lovely as a camera the SL is, it is simply not an action camera despite Leica's dishonest claim to the contrary.

 

The only situation I can think of when the high speed mode could be useful is under controlled laboratory conditions e.g. taking an image of a water droplet falling into a water container.

According to you this is no high-speed camera. And you cannot think of a situation when you need the speed.

Should this be a reason for others not to use the camera for exactly this scenario ?

What a strange sort of reasoning ...

 

When I want to use the camera at 11 frames/s I simply do - whatever other "specialists" think about it. It works very well with the native lenses and the "mechanical" lenses. (M, R or most others). And yes, faces have often very small glitches or closed eyes (often not closed exactly in parallel), that can easily be avoided this way. Or many other topics not completely under control (pets, children, weather phenomena).

But with the electronically controlled EOS AF lenses you typically get only about 3 images/s . (The Nikon type E are probably similar ...  any experiences ?)

[AlexP]

 

But with the electronically controlled EOS AF lenses you typically get only about 3 images/s . (The Nikon type E are probably similar ...  any experiences ?)

yes it is. same with Nikon adapter.

 

@maziatr,: pair it up with the 90-280, you can get serious capture bird in flight. If the feature build for the camera, why not use it.

[helged]

 

But with the electronically controlled EOS AF lenses you typically get only about 3 images/s . (The Nikon type E are probably similar ...  any experiences ?)

 

 

Correct - about 3 fps with the Novoflex SL/NIK + Nikon E lens combo.

 

But one can also use the manual Novoflex LET/NIK adapter together with Nikon E lenses. In this case everything is manual  and you have 11 fps, but the lens remains wide open.

[Joshua Lowe]

Just out curiosity, why do you want to use this camera in high speed mode? It's a gimmick because It locks exposure and the AF. As lovely as a camera the SL is, it is simply not an action camera despite Leica's dishonest claim to the contrary.

 

The only situation I can think of when the high speed mode could be useful is under controlled laboratory conditions e.g. taking an image of a water droplet falling into a water container.

Are you certain about AF being locked in high burst mode?

 

Yesterday I photographed a group of pro skateboarders using the SL in high burst mode.

 

I shot a series of 10 to 15 frame sequences of the skaters performing tricks, DNG+JPG, shutter priority @ 1/1250, AFc, testing with both static AF and dynamic tracking. The SL isn't a D5 but it did very well! The only OOF shots were caused by dynamic tracking getting confused a couple of times. In fact the only real complaint I have is about how long it takes for the SL's buffer to clear.

 

Sooner or later I'll take the SL out to shoot some auto or motorcycle racing. That will be the real test, I think. Shooting bursts of an oncoming vehicle that is moving at over 100mph is one of the hardest tests of an AF system.

[steppenw0lf]

Correct - about 3 fps with the Novoflex SL/NIK + Nikon E lens combo.

 

But one can also use the manual Novoflex LET/NIK adapter together with Nikon E lenses. In this case everything is manual  and you have 11 fps, but the lens remains wide open.

 

Can you also "preclose" the lens on a Nikon body ? As one can do with EOS lenses on a Canon body. In order to achieve other apertures ?

[steppenw0lf]

Are you certain about AF being locked in high burst mode?

 

Yesterday I photographed a group of pro skateboarders using the SL in high burst mode.

 

I shot a series of 10 to 15 frame sequences of the skaters performing tricks, DNG+JPG, shutter priority @ 1/1250, AFc, testing with both static AF and dynamic tracking. The SL isn't a D5 but it did very well! The only OOF shots were caused by dynamic tracking getting confused a couple of times. In fact the only real complaint I have is about how long it takes for the SL's buffer to clear.

 

Sooner or later I'll take the SL out to shoot some auto or motorcycle racing. That will be the real test, I think. Shooting bursts of an oncoming vehicle that is moving at over 100mph is one of the hardest tests of an AF system.

Somewhere is specified, that the SL can do up to 7 images/s with AF. And up to 11 without AF. (No idea where to find it.)

So maybe you were using it at the 7 frames/s level ...

[ramarren]

Just out curiosity, why do you want to use this camera in high speed mode? It's a gimmick because It locks exposure and the AF. As lovely as a camera the SL is, it is simply not an action camera despite Leica's dishonest claim to the contrary.

The only situation I can think of when the high speed mode could be useful is under controlled laboratory conditions e.g. taking an image of a water droplet falling into a water container.

Once upon a time, the only way to get 6fps was to buy a Nikon F, have it customized to fit the high speed motor drive, add the very large and heavy, required battery pack, and lock up the mirror. This with manual focus only lenses and no meter in the camera. Many many many professionals did just that to obtain spectacular photographs of motor racing, football, and high-speed, action subjects that had been hitherto impossible to photograph other than with specialized setups that cost many times what the Nikon did, and the Nikon was not cheap by any means.

 

"The biggest constraint upon your creativity is your imagination."

[helged]

Can you also "preclose" the lens on a Nikon body ? As one can do with EOS lenses on a Canon body. In order to achieve other apertures ?

 

 

Nope - and I have tried with various on/off combinations on a Nikon body. But if someone has a magic fix - please feel free to chime in!

[Joshua Lowe]

Somewhere is specified, that the SL can do up to 7 images/s with AF. And up to 11 without AF. (No idea where to find it.)

So maybe you were using it at the 7 frames/s level ...

I had the burst speed set to H.  I shot a few sequences of ~20 frames at f3.5 - 4.5 in AFc with dynamic tracking enabled.  It could just be that the DOF was large enough to keep the subject in focus.  

[helged]

Nope - and I have tried with various on/off combinations on a Nikon body. But if someone has a magic fix - please feel free to chime in!

 

 

Correction: When any of the new Nikon E-lenses are mounted on a Nikon body, the aperture can be pre-set by pressing the preview button and - simultaneously - removing the lens from the Nikon body, i.e., in the same way as to pre-set a Canon EF lens. Perhaps not very elegant, but it works (and hopefully not harmful for the electronics/mechanics...).

 

So in summary:

• By using the electronic Novoflex SL/NIK adapter, you can use E-lenses on the SL similarly to a native SL-lens, with the exceptions: Slow(er) autofocus, no lens image stabilisation and max (about) 3 fps. Manual focus works beautifully, of course.
• By using the manual Novoflex LET/NIK adapter, E-lenses on the SL are - as default - wide open, but you have 11 fps.
• By using the manual Novoflex LET/NIK adapter and by pre-setting the E-lens on a Nikon body, you can shoot the SL with the pre-set (fixed) aperture with 11 fps. Manual focussing can be hampered by the (partially) closed iris.

Certainly not as elegant as with Leica SL lenses, but it is, at least, possible. And since the SL-system lacks longer lenses and more specialised lenses, electronic Nikon and Canon lenses can be useful.