menos I M6 Posted February 8, 2013 Share #2861 Posted February 8, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Philip, in my opinion a .85x body or a M3 is mostly usable either for people, who skip 28 + 35 mm entirely or who have a second body for such wide angle lenses. Of course, one can shoot with external finders, but I find a 35/28 lens best to shoot with the internal finder. If you don't plan to use two bodies, you are better served with a standard .72x finder + a 1.25 or even 1.4 magnifier. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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andyedward Posted February 8, 2013 Share #2862 Posted February 8, 2013 The difference is indeed immense for people, who are strong users of 50mm and longer lenses.I do love especially focal lengths of ~75 − 135mm for fast, hand held shooting. A .85x finder is pure bliss for this (not to speak of the M3 viewfinder). For people, who use several bodies and shoot a wide and a longer lens on separate bodies, a .72x and a .85x finder body is a fantastic pair. I find my M7 .85x finder flares significantly more than all other modern finders, I have used (MP and digital). Dirk, can you please elaborate on why the .85x finder is better for longer lenses? My .72x finder works perfectly with a 35mm focal length, but the framelines for longer lenses appear too small IMHO. Do the .85x framelines cover a larger area than the .72x ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
menos I M6 Posted February 8, 2013 Share #2863 Posted February 8, 2013 Andy, you can imagine the higher magnification finders as versions of the same finder you have but with a loupe attached (to simplify). The finder image is exactly the same, but everything, subjects in frame, your frame lines, even the focus patch is magnified and appears therefore bigger in the viewfinder. The downside of the higher magnification finders is, that the field of view for wide angle lenses cannot be displayed in the finder anymore (a .85 finder will not display 28mm frame lines, while wearers of glasses will have already difficulties, to see the 35mm frame). Additionally the modern .85 higher magnification finders will be a bit more flare prone and are more sensitive to eye alignment in the optical axis of the viewfinder (the view can appear blurry and shows more flare, when moving the eye off axis of the finder). The attachment of magnification lenses (Leica offers 1.25x and 1.4x magnifiers, while other manufacturers offer different powers at different prices and qualities) have a similar effect, but add bulk to the back of the camera, some people (myself included) feel uncomfortable with (catches in a camera bag and is different in feeling, when up at the eye to a naked M. Additionally I (and others) feel, that attachment magnifiers do effect contrast and brightness (loss thereof, diminishing the benefit of higher magnification). As of this reason, I only use magnifiers as a help for composition, not really as an aid in focussing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
disco300 Posted February 8, 2013 Share #2864 Posted February 8, 2013 Thanks for the responses...i think i will be searching for 0.85x body very soon! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB007 Posted February 9, 2013 Share #2865 Posted February 9, 2013 I find myself shooting more with my M3 than my MP. The .92x M3 finder is a pleasure to use either shooting 50mm or 90mm. Yes, if you like shooting wider lenses than it is a different story. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted February 9, 2013 Share #2866 Posted February 9, 2013 Btw for new MPs, where in the numbering series is Leica currently? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted February 9, 2013 Share #2867 Posted February 9, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) I saw one with s/n above 4000000 when visiting local Leica distributor few weeks ago. Sorry, i don't know more about the issue... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyedward Posted February 9, 2013 Share #2868 Posted February 9, 2013 Btw for new MPs, where in the numbering series is Leica currently? The S/N of my two-month-old MP is 4414646 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted February 9, 2013 Share #2869 Posted February 9, 2013 Niko and Andy, thanks very much, this is very helpful. Cheers Philip Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted February 9, 2013 Share #2870 Posted February 9, 2013 Dirk, can you please elaborate on why the .85x finder is better for longer lenses? My .72x finder works perfectly with a 35mm focal length, but the framelines for longer lenses appear too small IMHO. Do the .85x framelines cover a larger area than the .72x ? Yes, they do. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted February 9, 2013 Share #2871 Posted February 9, 2013 The S/N of my two-month-old MP is 4414646 Wow! The serial number of my 1,5 years old MP a la carte is 3971... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted February 9, 2013 Share #2872 Posted February 9, 2013 But lets go back to the pictures. This is one of my first MP from the year 2002. Photo made with an M8. Sadly I lost the DNG of this capture. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/267593-i-love-my-mp/?do=findComment&comment=2238234'>More sharing options...
Paulus Posted February 9, 2013 Share #2873 Posted February 9, 2013 A wonderful' date=' silky smooth, Mechanically Perfect instrument. Will it survive the arrival of the M8 I wonder ?[/quote'] Yes it will! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyedward Posted February 9, 2013 Share #2874 Posted February 9, 2013 (edited) Wow! The serial number of my 1,5 years old MP a la carte is 3971... Its good to know that people are still ordering them! I'd order another if I could:) and buy a 50 lux to go with it!. I want to keep the production of this wonderful camera going for as long as possible. If leica ever announce that production is to cease, I'd go down to my local dealer and order two! The waiting time would double overnight, giving me time to find the cash to pay for them...... Edited February 9, 2013 by andyedward 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted February 25, 2013 Share #2875 Posted February 25, 2013 Wow! The serial number of my 1,5 years old MP a la carte is 3971... My MP a la carte (0.58, black saddle leather, 'classic' engraved top) was ordered from Stephens of Manchester at the end of April 2012 and delivered in mid July. Serial no. = 35165xx. It was immediately registered with Leica UK and passport received. Do Leica fill 'holes' in their serial number sequence? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/267593-i-love-my-mp/?do=findComment&comment=2252849'>More sharing options...
honcho Posted February 25, 2013 Share #2876 Posted February 25, 2013 Like that saddle leather! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foolli Posted February 27, 2013 Share #2877 Posted February 27, 2013 received my MP about 1 week ago, number 46660xx. using the battery came in the camera box, the exposure meter isn't working... so sad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB007 Posted February 27, 2013 Share #2878 Posted February 27, 2013 Did you try a different (new battery)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foolli Posted February 27, 2013 Share #2879 Posted February 27, 2013 Did you try a different (new battery)? i will do later today, thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
becker Posted February 27, 2013 Share #2880 Posted February 27, 2013 I think the Battery is off, MP works without Batt. as well. Good Luck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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