pico Posted December 16, 2016 Share #21 Posted December 16, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Nearly a Harley :) Oh, no. We are not going there. Here is the last Harley I built from the ground-up with parts found on the floors from swap meets before blister-packed bullsh*t was even thought of. A lot of the parts were hand-made by myself. Been there. My '46, '56, '66 Harley. AKA Butcher Boy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MT0227 Posted December 16, 2016 Share #22 Posted December 16, 2016 This is a bit misleading . When you shoot 1x1 as an example, the DNG files are imported into LR cropped at 1x1 as shot without any further intervention. Yes, it's still a 3:2 file, but what you shoot is what you get in LR as a DNG. The corresponding exports, regardless of file type, will assume the same ratio. On your SL, you can choose different formats, but that is only for JPegs. You raw files will all be 3:2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted December 16, 2016 Share #23 Posted December 16, 2016 Oh, no. We are not going there. Here is the last Harley I built from the ground-up with parts found on the floors from swap meets before blister-packed bullsh*t was even thought of. A lot of the parts were hand-made by myself. Been there. My '46, '56, '66 Harley. AKA Butcher Boy Now thats a f@cking Harley.................beautiful mate, just beautiful :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted December 16, 2016 Share #24 Posted December 16, 2016 Isn't that your camera bag? Jeff lo.......... and easier to spell than the other one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted December 16, 2016 Share #25 Posted December 16, 2016 Indeed it is Godfrey, a distinguished name. Let's call him Godfrey. I met the gentleman twenty-two years ago, followed his photo-of-the-day, introduced him to the SWC (I think), and will blame bless him forever for introducing me to Ducati motorcycles. It's been a good long run, hasn't it? :-) Your loan of the SWC cemented into reality what had been a fantasy going on for over thirty years, since I first saw a SuperWide in the 1960s. I always imagined how cool it would be ... once I had spent a little time with yours, I KNEW for a fact that this was my dream camera. Thank you so much for that kindness! My photography muse has been at a low ebb for the past few months while I have been dealing with other things. All that stuff is now pretty much locked down and moving into management mode; I found myself pulling out the SWC, the SL, the M-D, and the 6x6 pinhole camera ...beginning to think of what to get started on with them. Onwards! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted December 16, 2016 Share #26 Posted December 16, 2016 Mate.........opps no i forgot your not my mate. Why did you even bother writing all that bull crap.............you say you want to help people but only if you can belittle them first. Do me a favour best pal............ Have a great day Neil Okay. You're ignored after this message. Bye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted December 16, 2016 Share #27 Posted December 16, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) This is a bit misleading . When you shoot 1x1 as an example, the DNG files are imported into LR cropped at 1x1 as shot. Yes, it's still a 3:2 file, but what you shoot is what you get in LR as a DNG. Actually, the DNG files contain the full format capture. The SL sets the aspect ratio crop into the DNG metadata and Lightroom honors it by default, showing you the square crop in the raw file, but if you engage the LR cropping tool you can utilize the full format if you wish to do so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted December 16, 2016 Share #28 Posted December 16, 2016 This is a bit misleading . When you shoot 1x1 as an example, the DNG files are imported into LR cropped at 1x1 as shot. Yes, it's still a 3:2 file, but what you shoot is what you get in LR as a DNG. The entire raw file is still there, it's just automated cropping ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted December 16, 2016 Share #29 Posted December 16, 2016 Oh, no. We are not going there. Here is the last Harley I built from the ground-up with parts found on the floors from swap meets before blister-packed bullsh*t was even thought of. A lot of the parts were hand-made by myself. Been there. My '46, '56, '66 Harley. AKA Butcher Boy http://www.digoliardi.net/butcher.jpg Ach, I remember that bike. A lovely piece! I don't recall whether you had it put together before we met on euro-moto or whether you built it during the euro-moto years. Doesn't matter ... still a beautiful machine. :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted December 16, 2016 Share #30 Posted December 16, 2016 Nearly a Harley :) Seriously? Well, if you like only going in a straight line to the next posing spot, I'm sure that's fine; and that awful rattling. But, if you wish to turn corners, a Ducati is a different thing altogether. The feral howl of my Multistrada brings a smile to the face of all but crying children. When I switched out the asthmatic stock exhaust and catalytic converter and replaced them with lovely carbon cans from Italy, the result was enough to set off car alarms. Harley Davidson - pffft! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted December 16, 2016 Share #31 Posted December 16, 2016 I like them both. Cycles for courses.... Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted December 16, 2016 Share #32 Posted December 16, 2016 Never got the Harley thing (maybe because they were used by MC gangs here). BSAs, Nortons, Triumphs, Ducatis, now they stirred the blood - the last, particularly at full throttle. Unbelievable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MT0227 Posted December 16, 2016 Share #33 Posted December 16, 2016 Agreed and I said the same; however... " you can choose different formats, but that is only for JPegs" is somewhat miss-leading given you can (1) shoot in 1x1 in DNG and (2) there is no added workflow to achieve this aspect ratio in PP as a DNG. In other words, shooting in "different formats" or aspect ratios can be accomplished with your Camera set to DNG file type, not just jpg. The entire raw file is still there, it's just automated cropping ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MT0227 Posted December 16, 2016 Share #34 Posted December 16, 2016 Godfrey, I acknowledged the full raw file is there in my response.....however the initial response said, " you can choose different formats, but that is only for JPegs" . This is not accurate, you can choose "different formats" or aspect ratios with the SL set to DNG; not just jpg. Actually, the DNG files contain the full format capture. The SL sets the aspect ratio crop into the DNG metadata and Lightroom honors it by default, showing you the square crop in the raw file, but if you engage the LR cropping tool you can utilize the full format if you wish to do so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted December 16, 2016 Share #35 Posted December 16, 2016 Never saw the point. Apart from correcting rotation and some fine cropping to remove distractions and make minor composition improvements, I never crop. I guess the only possible appeal is 1:1, but then the smaller image somehow doesn't appeal. The great thing about using 120mm film for medium format is those fabulous huge negatives. Somehow, cropping a 3:2 digital file doesn't seem the same. But you're right. I forgot that selecting formats carries over the framing in the raw file. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MT0227 Posted December 16, 2016 Share #36 Posted December 16, 2016 Which is effectively exactly would you'd wan't in the end when shooting in a different aspect ratio, right? The entire raw file is still there, it's just automated cropping ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted December 16, 2016 Share #37 Posted December 16, 2016 I love Norton, Triumph and Ducati. But also great owning 2 Harleys.....one in New Mexico, taking it into Southern Colorado through winding unfenced mountain passes to Durango/Silverton and up to 13,000 feet in frigid weather through Telluride and back down through the heat of Mesa Verde. And another bike kept in Nevada and used to cruise around Lake Tahoe, Yosemite, etc. Great times....and lots of nice fellow riders. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted December 16, 2016 Share #38 Posted December 16, 2016 Godfrey, I acknowledged the full raw file is there in my response.....however the initial response said, " you can choose different formats, but that is only for JPegs" . This is not accurate, you can choose "different formats" or aspect ratios with the SL set to DNG; not just jpg. I suspect it's a matter of perspective. With a JPEG file, setting the aspect ratio modifies the output image file ... you cannot retrieve anything that the aspect ratio cropped out of the full frame capture. With a DNG file, the metadata in the file is honored by Lightroom so it looks like what it did in the viewfinder, but it can be changed and modified easily to the limits of the FF capture. I use the 1:1 and 16:9 aspect ratio settings frequently while I shoot, it makes them easy to frame for even if I change the framing afterwards fairly often. I don't use the 3:4 or 4:5 aspect ratio settings much because my brain has been wired to see those in the FF 2:3 ratio without really needing the framing aid. Too many years making 8x10s and 11x14s from 35mm negatives ... ;-) 16:9 is particularly handy if you're previsualizing for a wide-format movie, using stills to storyboard some proposed scenes. And yes: you can get what the camera does with the aspect ratio control when using Lightroom instantly by just selecting the frames and setting the aspect ratio you want to use. It will always set the default crop to the aspect ratio centered on the full frame. There's not much magic or trickiness to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MT0227 Posted December 16, 2016 Share #39 Posted December 16, 2016 John, As an example...I just did a fundraiser where I took 75 portraits (head shots) for some of my co-workers. The use for these shots were to add them into the corporate directory and or LinkedIn. Both platforms display the picture as a 1x1 and want you to upload the file as 1x1, or the platform will crop for you which could then cut off parts of the shot if the proper headroom...etc. is not available. By shooting in 1x1 and having this translate directly to LR with no added workflow for export, made this shoot quite easy to produce files in the desired format (aspect ratio) for easy upload. I think the latter is what Neil was interested understanding. Never saw the point. Apart from correcting rotation and some fine cropping to remove distractions and make minor composition improvements, I never crop.I guess the only possible appeal is 1:1, but then the smaller image somehow doesn't appeal. The great thing about using 120mm film for medium format is those fabulous huge negatives. Somehow, cropping a 3:2 digital file doesn't seem the same.But you're right. I forgot that selecting formats carries over the framing in the raw file. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted December 16, 2016 Share #40 Posted December 16, 2016 I like square photos but am often reluctant to make such drastic crops to a 3:2 file. Another advantage of the 3:4 X1D: squares will be 38mp compared with 16 MP from an M or SL file. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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