thighslapper Posted February 21, 2016 Author Share #21 Posted February 21, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) 320 iso 100% crops MM M246 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/257178-monochrome-conversions-mm-v-m246-v-m240-v-sl/?do=findComment&comment=2993943'>More sharing options...
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thighslapper Posted February 21, 2016 Author Share #22 Posted February 21, 2016 320 (m240) & 400 (SL) iso 100% crops M240 SL Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/257178-monochrome-conversions-mm-v-m246-v-m240-v-sl/?do=findComment&comment=2993947'>More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted February 21, 2016 Author Share #23 Posted February 21, 2016 3200 iso 100% crops MM M246 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/257178-monochrome-conversions-mm-v-m246-v-m240-v-sl/?do=findComment&comment=2993949'>More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted February 21, 2016 Author Share #24 Posted February 21, 2016 3200 iso 100% crops M240 SL Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/257178-monochrome-conversions-mm-v-m246-v-m240-v-sl/?do=findComment&comment=2993953'>More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted February 21, 2016 Author Share #25 Posted February 21, 2016 6400 iso 100% crops MM M246 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/257178-monochrome-conversions-mm-v-m246-v-m240-v-sl/?do=findComment&comment=2993955'>More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted February 21, 2016 Author Share #26 Posted February 21, 2016 6400 iso 100% crops m240 SL Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/257178-monochrome-conversions-mm-v-m246-v-m240-v-sl/?do=findComment&comment=2993956'>More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted February 21, 2016 Author Share #27 Posted February 21, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) 10000 (MM) and 12500(M246) iso 100% crops MM M246 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/257178-monochrome-conversions-mm-v-m246-v-m240-v-sl/?do=findComment&comment=2993961'>More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted February 21, 2016 Author Share #28 Posted February 21, 2016 12500 and 25000 100% crops SL 12500 SL 25000 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/257178-monochrome-conversions-mm-v-m246-v-m240-v-sl/?do=findComment&comment=2993965'>More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted February 21, 2016 Author Share #29 Posted February 21, 2016 ....but 100% monitor crops are only half the story ....... these are macro photos of actual A2 (23.5"x16.5") prints from an epson 3880 on Brilliant Museum Silver Gloss White Paper....... all from the M246 images above .... 320 iso 3200 iso Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/257178-monochrome-conversions-mm-v-m246-v-m240-v-sl/?do=findComment&comment=2993992'>More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted February 21, 2016 Author Share #30 Posted February 21, 2016 and more: 6400 iso 12500 iso Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/257178-monochrome-conversions-mm-v-m246-v-m240-v-sl/?do=findComment&comment=2993993'>More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted February 21, 2016 Author Share #31 Posted February 21, 2016 Differences ...... even in quite large prints are not that marked unless you view very close up. Sorry, SL folk, you cannot throw away your M246's ...... it still reigns supreme .... and by a fair margin, particularly with a lens like the 50/2 apo ....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted February 21, 2016 Share #32 Posted February 21, 2016 But something like a 42Mpx Sony will give you high resolution, combined with an ability to map RGB onto greyscale flexibly without the need for focus shifting filters. That latter facility is much more important to me than Billboard resolution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likaleica Posted February 22, 2016 Share #33 Posted February 22, 2016 Huge amount of work, TS. And very interesting. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted February 22, 2016 Share #34 Posted February 22, 2016 Differences ...... even in quite large prints are not that marked unless you view very close up. Sorry, SL folk, you cannot throw away your M246's ...... it still reigns supreme .... and by a fair margin, particularly with a lens like the 50/2 apo ....... Will keep my silver chrome Monochrom v1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steppenw0lf Posted February 22, 2016 Share #35 Posted February 22, 2016 Differences ...... even in quite large prints are not that marked unless you view very close up. Sorry, SL folk, you cannot throw away your M246's ...... it still reigns supreme .... and by a fair margin, particularly with a lens like the 50/2 apo ....... Thanks for the comparison and for the amount of work. But nobody would ever throw away a Leica - at least I do still have all of them. (Though I have Ms since 30 years I feel as one of the SL folk and so have to say: It is not an equal fight between M and SL, nowadays it is much more a sort of survivval camp for the R-system with the single surviving trainee the SL). (Even if the SL forum gives a distorted impression). But I do not really understand the macro photos - can you explain what you did and why you think this is so much more significant ? And one additional thought: Even before seeing all these tests I know exactly when I will use the M246 and when I will need the SL. In my eyes and with what I want to do, I had not once a situation of "conflicting interest" between the two cameras. (To make it clear I have both and so have no general preference, but in the winter time when everything is dark and cold I use a "colour" camera more frequently than a b&w. The little colour that is still around has to be caught and emphasized). Additionally most of the time I will not be using a perfect lens (there are 30 x times more lenses than just the one apo 50) and as you have to care about the weakest link in the full chain to the foto, I can just say that neither the M246 nor the SL will be the weakest link. (Rather the environment, the angle to the object or position or distance - too close or too far, very often the light situation, and last but not least the photographer.) Stephan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted February 22, 2016 Author Share #36 Posted February 22, 2016 Will keep my silver chrome Monochrom v1 ditto ...... seeing as it is one of a handful of 'specials' .... so I am very attached to it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted February 23, 2016 Share #37 Posted February 23, 2016 https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2016/02/comparing-the-leica-monochrom-to-a-sony-a7r-ii Comparing the Leica Monochrom to a Sony a7R II Blind test. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanG Posted February 23, 2016 Share #38 Posted February 23, 2016 Is the SL exaggerating the size of the candle some how? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted February 23, 2016 Author Share #39 Posted February 23, 2016 Is the SL exaggerating the size of the candle some how? the SL picture is 9 months after the others ...... it has grown a bit since then ..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfloid Posted December 9, 2016 Share #40 Posted December 9, 2016 This is great work. Thank you. Is it my eyes, or does the MM seem the sharpest at 3200. Is that an anomally? Or to be expected? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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