M3 to MP

[Wayne]

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Maybe this is just one man's way of learning to live with his faults, but when I hand develop a roll of film I am frequently very entertained by the many surprises I encounter.........as far as my exposure errors go. I think it was Mark Twain who commented, once he had learned the Mississippi and become a riverboat pilot, the river lost much of its mystery and beauty.

 

I am still thinking about an M7 or MP. But this thread has helped me appreciate how little I need either of those cameras.

 

Best

 

Wayne

[semi-ambivalent]

once he had learned the Mississippi and become a riverboat pilot, the river lost much of its mystery and beauty.

 

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Wayne

Having as a kid spent some humid Summer nights working a trot line neck deep in the Rock River in Illinois I can see why he might rue the intrusion of a 'scientific' knowledge.

 

s-a

[BerndReini]

Hey guys, a look at this link might give you an idea how silly this whole argument about incident vs. built-in meter is:

 

http://ukfilmlab.com/2014/04/24/film-stock-and-exposure-comparisons-kodak-portra-and-fuji/

[A miller]

Hey guys, a look at this link might give you an idea how silly this whole argument about incident vs. built-in meter is:

 

http://ukfilmlab.com/2014/04/24/film-stock-and-exposure-comparisons-kodak-portra-and-fuji/

I have seen this long ago...

...and can say that it doesnt do anything for me in the real world...

[Fotoklaus]

Just use slide film and make your decision afterwards.

[BerndReini]

 

 

I have seen this long ago...

...and can say that it doesnt do anything for me in the real world...

So how do you rate your film? I rate my film about two thirds of a stop above box speed. I agree that using a handheld meter teaches you a lot, but once you are experienced enough, you can use the built-in meter the same way you would use a handheld meter. I am sure that by now you know your exposure for the open-shade/ reflected sun situations you encounter in your locations. I sometimes use my in-camera meter to take a reading off my hand, then I open up a stop from that, and done. 

 

Once you understand how the built-in meter reacts, you can use it confidently, and shooting negative film is certainly extremely forgiving. I used to shoot slide film for many years before digital came around, and until recently I shot peel-apart instant film. This will certainly make you disciplined about exposure.

[A miller]

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So how do you rate your film? I rate my film about two thirds of a stop above box speed. I agree that using a handheld meter teaches you a lot, but once you are experienced enough, you can use the built-in meter the same way you would use a handheld meter. I am sure that by now you know your exposure for the open-shade/ reflected sun situations you encounter in your locations. I sometimes use my in-camera meter to take a reading off my hand, then I open up a stop from that, and done. 

 

Once you understand how the built-in meter reacts, you can use it confidently, and shooting negative film is certainly extremely forgiving. I used to shoot slide film for many years before digital came around, and until recently I shot peel-apart instant film. This will certainly make you disciplined about exposure.

That all makes sense to me. Dont disagree with anything you've said.

I certainly am not insisting that one way must be used

The main thrust of my origjnal point on this thread is that one is best served by learning about light and exposure values and not rely on a built in light meter. Obce this basic understanding is achieved, whether one "confirms" his own assessment with a built in or hand held meter, it really doesnt mattet as a practical matter. .