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-Hi Im new to this forum so if you can help or know someone who can please take a look at the pictures.

 

I picked these cameras up at a local auction, I think the chrome one is a IIIf going by the bits with it, but Its number is 461270 and according to Camera Quest its a IIIc. Its been modified with a mount on the back, Its not L39 so can't be for a lens. Any Ideas?

 

The black camera i think may be a Reid going by the body but the mechanism i think might be Leica it has " 2 1935 " scribed on it you can see that in one of the pictures. Theres no top plate but their is a number 168185 in between the viewfinder and rangefinder barrels that would suggest that this is a Leica 2 from 1935 going by Camera Quest. Theirs also a military mark on the back 0553/8810.

 

Can anyone help?

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