Doc Henry Posted September 29, 2014 Share #21 Posted September 29, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hello Henry, The combination of the M7 & 28mm lens is just fine. Nice photo. So are the others. My concern was using the 28mm lens to meter for the 50mm lens because: It is often easier to meter appropriately with reflected light metering if the meter is covering a smaller angle of view. Best Regards, Michael Hi Michael,thanks for this precision ! I obtain better pictures well exposed, with a focal length such as 90mm or 135mm. Best regards Henry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BerndReini Posted October 4, 2014 Share #22 Posted October 4, 2014 It was no coincidence that the P in MP stood for "perfection" because there is obviously nowhere to go from there with a film camera, and changing the winder and leaving out the light-meter is kind of a desperate move in my opinion. I will add that I also own an M7 and love it for other reasons, but the MP is the most beautiful camera ever made. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePioneer Posted October 6, 2014 Share #23 Posted October 6, 2014 I already sold my M6TTL and M7. I immediately posted my pre-order for the M-A and am "patiently" waiting for it. I really have no need for a Leica M with a meter, my Zeiss Ikon fills that need very nicely. But there are times when I like to go out with just film, camera and y Weston meter without worry for batteries. My M3 has been a faithful companion in this regards for some time but it is also very old and there is evidence that the viewfinder is beginning to delaminate. A new Leica in the lineage of the M3 will be welcome. I do wish it had a .85 viewfinder but that is not a deal breaker. The only thing that worries me is the shutter feel. I love the smoothness and responsiveness of the M3 shutter. I hope the M-A preserves that feeling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted October 6, 2014 Share #24 Posted October 6, 2014 I accept that individuals have aesthetic preference, which I do too, for certain cameras, but I have never really understood the apparent hang up about batteries. I have always found the necessity to change film a far greater requirement than carrying and replacing batteries. Personally, neither bother me and I have spent a lifetime working as a Pro doing just that. You just do it. OTOH, wresting with a lightmeter (yes I do that too with my 111f) is far more non intuitive to photography than an in camera meter requiring a battery. I am not advocating anyone give up their preference, I guess I am just saying I don't get it. My problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted October 6, 2014 Share #25 Posted October 6, 2014 Erl -- For me, it is not such much being without a battery (I shoot with an M9 and M6) and for years I used a Canon F1 or TTL lightmeter. Shooting professionally, under tight deadlines, I cannot see how one can really work with film in this day and age or w/o using an M7 (for film) which is the film equivalent of the M9 (really visa versa in terms of time line). BUT, in this technical electronic always plugged-in world, of which I am very much of part of professionally and in day-to-day personal life, having a well-balanced, fine-tuned, rugged, purely mechanical/manual/nonelectronic device in my hand (M4 for me) to take photos is like taking a vacation, a moment off-the-grid. Is this notion all between my ears, absolutely, but then again I shoot photos for what's between my ears anyway. As an aside, some parents of close friends recently passed away (in their 90s) and I went to pay my respects and all of us were handling and looking at old photos and passing them around. Not sure an ipad or computer will be the same in the future (and what if the password isn't left in the will?). Technology still well ahead of human evolution. So, why not a new mechanical marvel in your hands? Things aren't meant to last forever, they do deteriorate with time. It is one reason why, way back when, electronics began to replace the mechanical -- lasted longer with tighter tolerances. IF one can get an M4 quality camera built today, why not? Best, Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted October 7, 2014 Share #26 Posted October 7, 2014 I'm selling my M7 and will be ordering M-A. am I the only one who lost it or someone else has also gone bonkers? Buy it and be glad with it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePioneer Posted October 12, 2014 Share #27 Posted October 12, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have no hang up about batteries. Just prefer not worrying about them sometimes. I can buy no end of new cameras that need a battery. It is just nice knowing that a new Leica can be purchased that doesn't need one. I own an M3 that someone else bought new and used for many years. Now I own it and enjoy using it. Sometimes I wonder what things it has seen and photographed in its 60 years. Maybe 60 years from now someone will be holding my M-A wondering what it has seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerndReini Posted October 12, 2014 Share #28 Posted October 12, 2014 Spend the extra money and get the film MP. I just don't get the M-A over the old MP. Leica fans will spend an extra $1,000 for sapphire glass, but will deprive themselves of a built in meter in a camera. If you get the MP, you'll have it and if you don't want to use it, just don't put a battery in it. I understand that you may not really need the built in meter, but the M-A is such a lazy release from Leica that nobody should buy it to teach them a lesson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted October 12, 2014 Share #29 Posted October 12, 2014 Spend the extra money and get the film MP. I just don't get the M-A over the old MP. Leica fans will spend an extra $1,000 for sapphire glass, but will deprive themselves of a built in meter in a camera. If you get the MP, you'll have it and if you don't want to use it, just don't put a battery in it. I understand that you may not really need the built in meter, but the M-A is such a lazy release from Leica that nobody should buy it to teach them a lesson. The meter less M-A either appeals or it doesn't. If you fall into the camp that finds it appealing (as I do), the suggestion to remove the battery (often stated as if no-one had thought of it before) gets tiresome pretty quickly. There are at least of couple of advantages to a meterless M: first, the wider framelines can be shown uninterrupted without the metering LEDs (or the space they normally occupy) and, second, the action of the shutter release can be shorter than one that which has a point that activates the meter (though it remains to be seen whether there is any difference in the shutter release travel of the M-A compared with the MP). Less tangible but I find the pure mechanical nature of a meterless M an attractive quality and removing the battery (essentially a 'hack') doesn't feel like quite the same thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJH Posted October 12, 2014 Share #30 Posted October 12, 2014 Also slightly lighter and debatable but might be slightly more able to stand up to moisture and very low temperatures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerndReini Posted October 12, 2014 Share #31 Posted October 12, 2014 The meter less M-A either appeals or it doesn't. If you fall into the camp that finds it appealing (as I do), the suggestion to remove the battery (often stated as if no-one had thought of it before) gets tiresome pretty quickly. There are at least of couple of advantages to a meterless M: first, the wider framelines can be shown uninterrupted without the metering LEDs (or the space they normally occupy) and, second, the action of the shutter release can be shorter than one that which has a point that activates the meter (though it remains to be seen whether there is any difference in the shutter release travel of the M-A compared with the MP). Less tangible but I find the pure mechanical nature of a meterless M an attractive quality and removing the battery (essentially a 'hack') doesn't feel like quite the same thing. I didn't mean to sound insulting by saying leave the battery out. It is actually something that sometimes just happens to me because I won't shoot with my MP for a while and I just use it without. I also admit that I hadn't thought about any extra viewfinder room that is not taken up by the meter. But as far as the travel of the shutter, I am willing to bet you that it is the exact same as the MP shutter. There is no way Leica redesigned any of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr237 Posted October 12, 2014 Share #32 Posted October 12, 2014 There is no way Leica redesigned any of that. Do you work at Leica? Do you know a designer there who told you this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerndReini Posted October 13, 2014 Share #33 Posted October 13, 2014 I said I would bet you. I do not work for Leica. What do you think? Brand new shutter mechanism for this new film camera? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted October 13, 2014 Share #34 Posted October 13, 2014 I'm not sure if such a shutter mechanism is substantially different or a problem to stock separately from the MP mechanism (after all, Leica still service all manner of M bodies from the pre-M6 era and I don't suppose they routinely substitute the older releases with MP mechanisms) but, if I had to bet, I too think Leica will use the same release as found on the MP. My memory of the meterless MP Classic from 2004 (which I have owned alongside a regular MP) is that it does have the same release as the MP (though I'm not sure how useful that is as a guide – the MP Classic was a special edition of 500 cameras ordered by Schmidt and not, as in the case of the M-A, a new model of camera together). Time will reveal all – it can't be long before the M-A starts to ship to those who have already ordered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted October 13, 2014 Share #35 Posted October 13, 2014 I said I would bet you. I do not work for Leica. What do you think? Brand new shutter mechanism for this new film camera? Actually, it's the release and not the shutter which is being discussed. However, they should use a shutter without the bright spot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted October 25, 2014 Share #36 Posted October 25, 2014 But as far as the travel of the shutter, I am willing to bet you that it is the exact same as the MP shutter. There is no way Leica redesigned any of that. I used the M-A at photokina and it has a shutter button travel that is more akin to my M4 black paint than my Millennium. They are most definitely not the same. Also, the film wind has the steely roughness of modern film cameras. It is not at all like the old brass-gear Ms. My Millennium has become smoother with use, and tuning by Leica, but it is still far from as smooth as my M4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted October 25, 2014 Share #37 Posted October 25, 2014 A person could buy a never-used, early black enamel M4 in the box for less than the M-A. The paint on that M4 has never been bettered, it is all brass, has a super smooth action and in the long run, worth more. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_livsey Posted October 27, 2014 Share #38 Posted October 27, 2014 There's a rumour going around that they will make an accessory light meter that will fit in the flash socket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted October 27, 2014 Share #39 Posted October 27, 2014 There's a rumour going around that they will make an accessory light meter that will fit in the flash socket. That would be interesting considering that Leica did not make the original light meters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_livsey Posted October 27, 2014 Share #40 Posted October 27, 2014 Just seen a picture from Photokina of one, original, fitted to the new model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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