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About two days ago one of my bodies suddenly started being obviously slow in showing frames and battery level on the top LCD on both power up and wake up--about 4 seconds. I compared it to the other body, which was about 1 or 2 seconds. So, I figured this was the first step towards some full-blown M8 shenanigans and this camera was headed to the hospital. Today, in removing the bottom plate to replace the battery, I found that the SD card was not fully inserted and that the bottom plate had been holding it in position, but not fully. Snapping the card in fully corrected the slowness. I thought others might like to know this behavior, as the camera had otherwise been working fine.

 

So, even though I'm still edgy, I'm feeling like Leica has gotten most of the more serious operational bugs (if not the photographic ones, for color people) under control with the 1.10. There seems to be a lot less reported trouble on the forum and I'm having more confidence in the cameras and hoping this is justfied. Thanks Leica for a really terrific camera, and I'm still keeping my fingers crossed anyway. My biggest gripe now is the menu line jumping using the "scroll wheel," particularly when setting exposure comp and the forward-back-forward thing on reviewing frames. Not too bad given how this all started. I do hope people can gain confidence in this camera so that Leica continues to find a market for it.

 

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Start up time also depends on the capacity of the SD card. 4GB taking about 6 seconds, significantly longer than 1GB. At first I thought that was your problem, that you'd used a larger card in the camera. :D The camera will of course take a picture almost immediately after it's switched on although the frame counter doesn't display until later.

 

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One of the things I wonder about is just what is the life of the SD card socket, in terms of insertions and removals? Few of us (any?) use the USB port to get data out of the camera, swapping cards instead. I worry that Leica, in specifying the SD socket, might have under-estimated the use it's actually going to get.

 

I'm less worried about the contacts (which will probably be gold flashed) than I am about the latching mechanism and I think it's worth going easy on the socket. A specification I have here of a similar component suggests 10000 insertion cycles.

 

Expensive to fix, soldered onto the main DSP board...

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I may not have fully inserted the card, though it's also possible that the latching mechanism released the card after the bottom plate was on. In looking at the flat black paint on the inside of the bottom cover there is absolutely no scratching or burnishing in line with the end of the card, which I would expect had I not fully inserted the card and forced the cover to push and hold it in the slot. My cards are all 2 gig. While the camera will fire almost immediately on power up or wake up, I actually find the latter inconsistent. Occasionally I have delays of a couple of a second or two before the shutter will fire on wake up (I just hold down the release when this happens and it eventually fires). I have also frequently seen the camera over expose by three or four stops when firing immediately after it comes out of standby, although this doesn't usually happen. My two bodies seem consistent in these behaviors.

 

These behaviors aren't very troublesome to me, but the relatively expensive Canon stuff I've used is a model of instantaneous response by comparison. As a matter of fact, my two ($300) Sony W-100 pocket cameras are much faster than the M8 in wakeup behavior, instantaneous really.

 

For those interested, here's a link to some very recent photographs. Two are from the Sonys, the rest (I think) from the M8. Can you tell which are which without looking at the EXIF data? It's very difficult even in the 13 x 19 prints, which are much, much better than these JPEGS. The Sonys shoot only (rather highly compressed) JPEGS.

 

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