rob_x2004 Posted May 2, 2007 Share #1 Posted May 2, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Being new to rangefinders I wondered what was happening here. Only very low res scan and I can actually get the image back quite reasonably with curves if I thought it was worth saving. I dont think I would have had the same problem with R and would have had no problem metering. Negs look stunning no processsing problems. Detail is still there if I want it. My stuff up but, what has been cooooked, the meter has been sizzling and I didnt understand? Or is it light going buzzo in the lens, there big difference middle to edges? .....[ATTACH]35883[/ATTACH] ............M35Lux Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted May 2, 2007 Posted May 2, 2007 Hi rob_x2004, Take a look here Flare or gross exposure?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
rob_x2004 Posted May 2, 2007 Author Share #2 Posted May 2, 2007 Oh, I probably exposed onto my hand. If you notice beneath the boats there is good detail in the inky shadows, and the figure at left frame edge looks fine even though in shadow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard Posted May 2, 2007 Share #3 Posted May 2, 2007 Looks like lens flare to me. Apparently, the sun is located just outside the upper edge of the frame, and that is a very flare prone condition indeed. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spydrxx Posted May 2, 2007 Share #4 Posted May 2, 2007 Looks like flare to me too...it looks like you got either sunlight on the lens directly or by means of a reflection. I'd be more careful shooting in the direction of sunlight, especially if you weren't using a hood. I fought this issue for quite some time as I typically only used a hood for protection from bumps...but I've come to appreciate its ability to cut down on flare as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted May 3, 2007 Author Share #5 Posted May 3, 2007 Of course I was shooting towards the sun, it is just out of frame right third of frame. Check shadows. Dont use filters always use hoods. Maybe it is something inherent in the shorter ASPHs or something. Bit of a shame really, not something I exected. It wouldnt happen with silhouette style shots. I have them. Maybe the answer is to stop down and recover the shadows in editing. I havent tried a high quality scan but I think I could recover this without any effort, certainly fine for posting or small print. Probably impossible for colour. Still, all goes in to the big learning file. ......[ATTACH]35936[/ATTACH] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted May 3, 2007 Author Share #6 Posted May 3, 2007 Guess with an R you can manage the flare situation you are dealt through the lens and you get a handle on what works. With M you compose with the flare as it is dealt up to the viewfinder optics, not the lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gvaliquette Posted May 3, 2007 Share #7 Posted May 3, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) This is one situation where the R has a real advantage. You can place your hand just above and in front of the lens so that it acts as a shade extension and see the result in the viewfinder. The difference can be dramatic. I don't think you can do that with an M. Guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spydrxx Posted May 4, 2007 Share #8 Posted May 4, 2007 Well, you can your shade the lens with your hand if you expect flare, but you just can't see the result as with a slr. Done it for years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted May 4, 2007 Author Share #9 Posted May 4, 2007 Yea but it is a mushy burn out sort of thing across the middle of the neg, not a razorblade shaft of light across the frame. Consolation that it is saveable, I wouldnt bother, but....It surprised me it crept across like an even fogg, smoothly across the shadow areas. It was getting to dusk sun was low and I was probably open down to f/5.6 I think. Different probably round f/11-16. I am still a bit dense to M lenses. I shoot into the sun plenty, but rarely exosing to shadows. I guess coming from R glass I could see when something just wasnt on and didnt shoot it. I know I was blinded in the rangefinder. Just a case of learning new boundaries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfbldwn Posted May 4, 2007 Share #10 Posted May 4, 2007 Was this an M7, or an MP? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted May 4, 2007 Author Share #11 Posted May 4, 2007 MP, so no odd shutter speed at the last moment that was missed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
guywalder Posted May 5, 2007 Share #12 Posted May 5, 2007 Rob, if the neg/slide looks ok, then it looks like the flare is happening in your scanner. I only noticed scanner flare when I scanned a dark 35mm slide on my MF scanner, and saw flare from the film transport holes. I missed it on the preview and only found out after a very lengthy 'full quality' scan But it showed me how relatively easily it can occur. Guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted May 5, 2007 Author Share #13 Posted May 5, 2007 Guy in this instance it is lens flare. When I said the negs looked stunning I meant they were full bodied shiny pristine unscratched and no developing marks. Through the loup you can see the differentiation once you know what to look for. On the light box it isnt really evident. Prescan immediately evident. Scan obviously. Operator error, I just didnt knwo how the lens behaved, having always used slr I probably just used to adjust and never really got the situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfbldwn Posted May 5, 2007 Share #14 Posted May 5, 2007 MP, so no odd shutter speed at the last moment that was missed. Thanks for saying it out loud. Better you than me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsmith Posted May 6, 2007 Share #15 Posted May 6, 2007 looks like flare Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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