Verteidiger Posted October 9, 2013 Share #1 Posted October 9, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Do you use the new Seven5 or the old RF75 Filter Holder with the new M 240? What are the differences? Does the new Big Stopper work with the old RF75 Filter Holder as well or does it work better with the new Seven5 Holder? Is it easier to use the rangefinder with the old RF75 Filter Holder than with the new Seven5 Holder? - Thank you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dwbell Posted October 9, 2013 Share #2 Posted October 9, 2013 It's my understanding that they are one and the same thing. With Seven5 being a cooler marketing name than RF75 being the main difference. I have some rings from the Seven5 and I think the holder is RF75, all works the same, it's just 75mm width as opposed to the DSLR standard 100mm is all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Essemmlee Posted October 9, 2013 Share #3 Posted October 9, 2013 The Seven5 and the RF75 are the same thing as noted above. I have the big stopper in this size (75mm) and it works perfectly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verteidiger Posted October 9, 2013 Author Share #4 Posted October 9, 2013 The Seven5 and the RF75 are the same thing as noted above. I have the big stopper in this size (75mm) and it works perfectly. Thank you for your quick answers. Sorry, SMLee, that I am insisting: Do you use the big stopper with the old RF75 or with the new Seven5? Lee write they do not guarantee that the big stopper works with the RF75 as it has been designed to work with the Seven5: Seven5 or RF75? – Customer Feedback for LEE Filters So there has to be a difference, hasn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Essemmlee Posted October 9, 2013 Share #5 Posted October 9, 2013 Thank you for your quick answers. Sorry, SMLee, that I am insisting: Do you use the big stopper with the old RF75 or with the new Seven5? Lee write they do not guarantee that the big stopper works with the RF75 as it has been designed to work with the Seven5: Seven5 or RF75? – Customer Feedback for LEE Filters So there has to be a difference, hasn't it? If there is a difference I don't know what it is. My Big Stopper works perfectly on my RF75 filter holder. I wasn't even aware there was a Seven5! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted October 9, 2013 Share #6 Posted October 9, 2013 Thank you for your quick answers. Sorry, SMLee, that I am insisting: Do you use the big stopper with the old RF75 or with the new Seven5? Lee write they do not guarantee that the big stopper works with the RF75 as it has been designed to work with the Seven5: Seven5 or RF75? – Customer Feedback for LEE Filters So there has to be a difference, hasn't it? In my opinion it will be perfectly fine. The wording of the link you post smacks or a company covering a compatibility warranty claim, from a legal stand point as opposed to a practical one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giulio Zanni Posted October 9, 2013 Share #7 Posted October 9, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) How do you use the big stopper when the new M does not allow for exposures longer than 1 minute? Giulio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Essemmlee Posted October 9, 2013 Share #8 Posted October 9, 2013 How do you use the big stopper when the new M does not allow for exposures longer than 1 minute? Giulio Easily. Other than we can't expose for longer than 60 seconds. The camera is very adaptable to achieve exposures of up to a minute, but clearly no longer. At that point we get the M9 out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giulio Zanni Posted October 9, 2013 Share #9 Posted October 9, 2013 Easily. Other than we can't expose for longer than 60 seconds. The camera is very adaptable to achieve exposures of up to a minute, but clearly no longer. At that point we get the M9 out. My point was that, given an f stop of 8/11 at 200 iso with the big stopper you easily go past the 60 sec. especially in the early morning/late afternoon light. A more conservative ND 0.9 seems to me a better match for the new M. Giulio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted October 9, 2013 Share #10 Posted October 9, 2013 The difference you ask about is only in the holder, not the filters themselves. The more expensive holder is better finished with engraved markings as opposed to transfer markings. They both work identically, so you literally pays your money and takes your choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Essemmlee Posted October 9, 2013 Share #11 Posted October 9, 2013 My point was that, given an f stop of 8/11 at 200 iso with the big stopper you easily go past the 60 sec. especially in the early morning/late afternoon light. A more conservative ND 0.9 seems to me a better match for the new M. Giulio Any speed faster than 1/20s is usable with the Big Stopper and the Leica M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted October 9, 2013 Share #12 Posted October 9, 2013 Anyone know if they make an adapter ring for 60mm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted October 9, 2013 Share #13 Posted October 9, 2013 How do you use the big stopper when the new M does not allow for exposures longer than 1 minute? Giulio I have the screw on type for my Noctilux and a series 8 for my 21 lux and they both work great..........I set the shutter to B and then trial and error untill you find the correct exposure..............done it a bunch of times and works great:D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted October 9, 2013 Share #14 Posted October 9, 2013 Anyone know if they make an adapter ring for 60mmchecked already they do make a 60mm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Essemmlee Posted October 9, 2013 Share #15 Posted October 9, 2013 I have the screw on type for my Noctilux and a series 8 for my 21 lux and they both work great..........I set the shutter to B and then trial and error untill you find the correct exposure..............done it a bunch of times and works great:D Still, 'B' is maxed out at 60 seconds. It's sadly not possible to have an exposure any longer than a minute using any method with the M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted October 10, 2013 Share #16 Posted October 10, 2013 Still, 'B' is maxed out at 60 seconds. It's sadly not possible to have an exposure any longer than a minute using any method with the M. Even if you set the B exposure to start with say a 2sec timer and then just let it run until you hit the shutter release Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted October 10, 2013 Share #17 Posted October 10, 2013 In conjunction with the self-timer, a T function is also available: If is set and the self-timer is activated by tapping the shutter release button (see also p. 150), the shutter opens automatically after the selected delay time. It then remains open until you press the shutter release button a second time – you do not need to hold the button down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Essemmlee Posted October 10, 2013 Share #18 Posted October 10, 2013 In conjunction with the self-timer, a T function is also available: If isset and the self-timer is activated by tapping the shutter release button (see also p. 150), the shutter opens automatically after the selected delay time. It then remains open until you press the shutter release button a second time – you do not need to hold the button down. So, are you saying, and you have tested this, that this method allows an exposure of longer than 60 seconds? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WPalank Posted October 10, 2013 Share #19 Posted October 10, 2013 That would be a great work around as all the literature says no longer than 60 secs. I remember in a thread somewhere, an "expert" stated something to do with the new CMOS sensor overheating. Although Nikon/Canon have somehow gotten away with this. Now back to the thread. I ordered the R75 system through two dealers and after over a year they both said that Lee was not sending these puppies out. There was always one component of the system that was back ordered and they had no idea when they would appear. Checked B&H and several of the components are back ordered. Is there somewhere in the US one can order the whole system? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted October 10, 2013 Share #20 Posted October 10, 2013 that would be a great work around as all the literature says no longer than 60 secs. I remember in a thread somewhere an "expert" stated something to do with the new CMOS sensor overheating. although Nikon/Canon has somehow gotten away with this. Now back to the thread. I ordered the R75 system through two dealers and after over a year they both said that Lee was not sending these puppies out. There was always one component of the system that was back ordered and they had no idea when they would appear. checked B&H and several of the components are back ordered. is there somewhere in the US one can order the whole system? William - they are readily available in UK, although Lee does seem to have difficulty keeping up with demand and seems to make the filters in batches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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