Guest WPalank Posted July 24, 2013 Share #1 Posted July 24, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Anyone received the Broncolor Move Pack System? I understand the product is finally "Moving". Seems like the perfect Studio /Travel Pack Lighting System especially with the Parabolic-88 Kit. Bron doesn't mention much about the fact it comes with a Custom Backpack that fits the Lighting Pack, Para, Single Head, and Stand securely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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StephenPatterson Posted July 25, 2013 Share #2 Posted July 25, 2013 Bron doesn't mention much about the fact it comes with a Custom Backpack that fits the Lighting Pack, Para, Single Head, and Stand securely. For that much money it should come with it's own Sherpa guide and donkey... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tanks Posted July 25, 2013 Share #3 Posted July 25, 2013 Well, Bron makes good gear. I have their Grafit A4 pack, and 3 Pulso G heads and have been very happy with them. Not that portable though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted July 25, 2013 Share #4 Posted July 25, 2013 Well, Bron makes good gear. Yes they do, and so do Profoto and Elinchrom. Lots of choices for travel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WPalank Posted July 25, 2013 Share #5 Posted July 25, 2013 Yes they do, and so do Profoto and Elinchrom. Lots of choices for travel. Actually, I've talked to lots of people that travel with Elinchrom and Profoto. Fail! I have watched my Bron Kit bounce up and down on Rocky roads in areas where there are no Lighting/Camera repair shops for days at a time, all the while thinking, I'm going to be left with shards of glass and metal pieces. Those babies popped first time every time. With the ability to shoot two separate heads Symmetric or Asymmetric and overpower the noon day sun in a pack that size, with a Lithium Battery, is simply unprecedented. Not to mention its perfect for the Studio as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted July 25, 2013 Share #6 Posted July 25, 2013 Actually, I've talked to lots of people that travel with Elinchrom and Profoto. Fail! We will have to agree to disagree then William. I've been shooting with both Elinchrom and Profoto lights around Hong Kong and China recently, in the field and in the studio, and have had zero failures. Rugged, wonderful light, and significantly less money than Broncolor. But I know they have been very good to you in Ethiopia and so I can understand your loyalty to the company. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WPalank Posted July 25, 2013 Share #7 Posted July 25, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) We will have to agree to disagree then William. Stephen, there is nothing sexier than a Bron Parabolic other than maybe a Seafury running in the Unlimiteds at Reno. FYI $3800 of the kit is for the Parabolic with Focusing Rod. $1700 of that number is the Focusing Rod alone. If you buy the "Para One head Move Kit", the rod is free. i know, What a Deal! I recently attended a free workshop sponsored by Broncolor with Bron's cheif Lighting Guy that works full time at the facility in Switzerland, Urs Recher. Author of this book: Light Architecture Unbelievable stuff with a one head Para. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted July 25, 2013 Share #8 Posted July 25, 2013 I have Profoto B3 Packs but will buy the Broncolor packs when I upgrade. THe new Move kits are a leap ahead. Quicker Flash Duration at high power (good when you want to use an Octa which is my fave source), higher overall power, much smaller, much lighter, LED Modelling for proper modelling use (profoto modelling kills the battery), better colour consitency and power across the range and MUCH cheaper. I dn't really use these packs in the studio but for travel the size and weight alone makes a massive difference when you are flying that and the LED modelling which means you can actually use the modelling makes for much more usability. All this and cheaper? Bye bye Profoto. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WPalank Posted July 25, 2013 Share #9 Posted July 25, 2013 Yeah, I got the chance to pick up one of those packs last month and couldn't believe the difference the Lithium batteries make. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
120 Posted July 26, 2013 Share #10 Posted July 26, 2013 I would want the 170cm Bron, so $6K just for a modifier. That's about six times the Elinchrom "equivalent". Have you had a chance to try any of the Elinchrom indirects? If so, how does the light quality compare to the Bron you mentioned? I will never be able to switch brands, but still I am curious. Thanks... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted July 26, 2013 Share #11 Posted July 26, 2013 While I've not tried the Bron indirects, the Elinchrom Octa is really hard to beat. I have these and they are my favourite shaper. The light is incredible. I've used the the Briese, and it was a marvel, incredible pearly light, but it's pricing is on another planet, maybe universe and they are awkward to use. You need assistants who are very familiar with the gear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WPalank Posted July 26, 2013 Share #12 Posted July 26, 2013 Talk about pricing out of this world, try buying any of the Bron Modifiers. I went for the Creative Light Octa and couldn't be happier. Very inexpensive. Unfortunately the company either went out of business or someone bought them out so you have to check the used market. The Bonus was the price of the custom grid (egg-crate). Only half the price of the modifier. Those of you that have grids know the opposite is typically true. The grid is twice the price of the modifier. I typically remove the inner baffle as I want a little bit of a hot-spot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted July 26, 2013 Share #13 Posted July 26, 2013 Talk about pricing out of this world, try buying any of the Bron Modifiers. The Briese 330 Focus Parabolic Umbrella is just shy of £20K! They invented this particular style of parabolic umbrella and make Broncolor prices look, relatively, like Bowens. The light is like nothing else though. I use a mixture of modifiers from different brands. They all interconnect with speedrings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WPalank Posted July 26, 2013 Share #14 Posted July 26, 2013 The Briese 330 Focus Parabolic Umbrella is just shy of £20K! Geez...... Found a video and it looked like the Bron Product kind of. Have you compared the Bron 330 FB. I've never used it but the people that have.... Broncolor Para 330FB Reflector Umbrella B-33.486.00 B&H Photo I own a large variety of soft boxes. Unfortunately my 7 foot rectangle and 6 foot Octa need a different speedring due to the diameter of the rods. The smaller modifiers, all use the same speeding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmueller Posted July 27, 2013 Share #15 Posted July 27, 2013 Hi William, coming back to your original question, i received the Move Para Kit last week. Too early to say something about it of course but the first impression is quite good. So yes it seems the kits are finally shipping (ordered it last October) The kit comes with two roller bags, one for the Move and accessories and one for the Para 88, i could post some pictures here if folks are interested. The Move is amazingly light weight, guess you can really carry around in the field, will try that some time. Speaking of prices, the Move is cheaper than Profoto's new B4 and has slightly more power as well. Best Regards, Ralf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WPalank Posted July 27, 2013 Share #16 Posted July 27, 2013 Ralf, speaking only for myself I've seen the system and would be more interested in the results. Also, can you confirm that the "Para Move Kit" includes the Focusing Yolk? One of the boys from Bron US called me and told me right now they are catching up on their one and two head kits because the whole thing ran so far behind. Para Kits should be shipping to us that pre-ordered in about 2-4 weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmueller Posted July 27, 2013 Share #17 Posted July 27, 2013 Hi William, yes, the kit comes with the focusing yolk, a MobiLED head, RFS2 remote, sync cable etc. I'd recommend a sturdy tripod for the Para88, i have a Manfrotto 007BSU which seems just right for the Para88. Let me know if you'd like more info, will post some pictures soon, at the moment its just too hot over here ;-) Regards, Ralf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WPalank Posted July 27, 2013 Share #18 Posted July 27, 2013 Ralf, I'll use a Rolling C-Stand in Studio and probably a voice activated monopod in the field. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WPalank Posted July 28, 2013 Share #19 Posted July 28, 2013 RFS2 remote........ Ralf, Sorry for the trouble, but can one adjust the power of the pack from the Transmitter like the Elinchrom System? If so, can you adjust two heads simultaneously? On the A2r Pack (my current Bron Travel Pack with 1st Generation Radio Transmitter) it's not possible. Or if they have come up with a Firmware Upgrade, one has to send the pack back to New Jersey (why does that sound familiar?). .........its justtoo hot over here ;-) Regards, Ralf Yup, I'd hate to see an image of Kate Blanchett sopping wet in her Balenciaga gown. BTW, it's a balmy 16ºC here in San Francisco. I also agree with one of your earlier posts about people posting that Bron is so much more expensive than Profoto. I've found the equipment pretty close in price. Also, many people compare the Elinchrom Pack that has 750 WS to the Bron, producing 1200 WS (Apples to Oranges). Yes, in a Studio 1200 is probably overkill. In fact I often have to use a Bowens 450 at the lowest stop. But once one gets into the field during the day, it's a whole different ballpark (errr...football pitch). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
120 Posted July 28, 2013 Share #20 Posted July 28, 2013 ... I also agree with one of your earlier posts about people posting that Bron is so much more expensive than Profoto. I've found the equipment pretty close in price. Also, many people compare the Elinchrom Pack that has 750 WS to the Bron, producing 1200 WS (Apples to Oranges). ... Not sure which pack this is; I don't think there is anything between 400 ws and 1100. The 1100 has been due for an update for a long time; the new version will inevitably be lighter and much less expensive than the Broncolor. : ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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