tobey bilek Posted July 17, 2013 Share #1 Posted July 17, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) I had a few ink printers 10 years ago with my first digital cameras. Never could match my darkroom color, fought with dried ink etc. I am on Epsons mailing list and they send me 16x20 samples from their latest and greatest. Still not impressed, although a monochrome was beautiful in the last sample set. Tried a Kodak dye sub with decent results, not great just decent. On to today 5 years later and I am taking a watercolor painting class. The teacher has some originals and matching inkjet or glyclee` as the snobs call it, made on watercolor paper. He uses a lab called OSIO-BROWN. It is a first class lab which I would also like to use. The prints are stunning to say the least. Their costs are stunning also. I want to use the rough surface watercolor paper and my normal pro lab does not offer it. OSIO wants a hugh set up fee. They claim retouching and color matching and so on. Big deal, I can and do that. I can soft proof. They claim several hours work. Did they never hear of profiles? So I start looking for others on the net who are cheaper. I really am not finding anything affordable. No one seems to offer profiles to end user and economy prints. This escalates the cost dramatically and worst, I end up with their interpretation of what it is supposed to look like. This is precisely why I have my own darkroom. OSIO works off an original they scan so they know what it is supposed to look like. So now it comes down to two questions. Does anyone know of a service that prints on artistic paper like rough surface water color at a reasonable cost ? What about buying a a printer that will not have dried ink issues that takes heavy weight paper that I can use at home. Some of the better ones cost $800 to resupply the ink, and at that cost I am better off paying the commercial price for a few prints. Not only are those prices factored in, but I will need to buy something to create profiles and that is $1000 unless I go for cheapos which do not measure the full color gamut of the printer. What color printers are we using without issues ? My preference is one that has the nozzles built into the cartridge or at least user interchangeable ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sanyasi Posted July 17, 2013 Share #2 Posted July 17, 2013 Some people on the forum know where you reside. For those of us who don't, it would help to know where you are from. Jack Siegel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted July 17, 2013 Share #3 Posted July 17, 2013 Some people on the forum know where you reside. For those of us who don't, it would help to know where you are from. We can easily know where he's from by clicking on his profile. [illinois, US.] But I guess that's expecting a lot from folks who still don't know, or care, that there's a search box as well. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted July 17, 2013 Share #4 Posted July 17, 2013 There are many lovely textured, coated for inkjet, papers now available from a variety of manufacturers. I don't personally use them (preferring the many baryta gloss types), but modern Epson printers are built to accommodate all types of papers and thicknesses using different feeds. I prefer to do my own printing and have no issues with clogs as long as I use the printer, even if only to run a test print, every week or so. A printer like the 3880 would only cost roughly half of your $800 quote to fully supply with inks, but the cartridges are large (80 ml) and last a long time. And one can save a lot...well over 50%...by using third party inks such as those from Cone that are specifically designed for Epson machines. These have reusable cartridges that don't soil the planet with disposal. Profiles can be done in a variety of ways. One can get them for free from the manufacturer, or make custom ones. There are even services that can do this inexpensively, such as the Color Valet service from Chromix, which I think gives you unlimited profiles over 18 months for less than $200 total. This is a great age for doing one's own printing. YMMV. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanyasi Posted July 17, 2013 Share #5 Posted July 17, 2013 We can easily know where he's from by clicking on his profile. [illinois, US.] But I guess that's expecting a lot from folks who still don't know, or care, that there's a search box as well. Jeff Actually I did that and I didn't see anything listed. Would kindly appreciate less sarcasm, particularly when I was simply trying to provide more pertinent information to help someone else out. And before I post a question that may have previously been answered, I do conduct a search, which cuts down on my questions. To answer the question, I am located in Chicago. I have never sent work out, but I have heard from some photographers and pastel artists that Printmakers Chicago does good work.Printmakers Chicago I took a Leica seminar and they offered us the opportunity to have a free print made with Digital Silver Imaging. I submitted a file, but I suspect they never received it and I really didn't care so I didn't follow up. Nevertheless the print maker seem to be a high end shop. Custom Color Inkjet Printing. I seem to recall reading about a print shop in Connecticut that does high end printing for major photographers. They also offer workshops. I haven't been able to find it yet, but I did stumble across this directory of print service providers when looking for it: DP&I.com: Printmakers Directory As I recall the Connecticut shop was printing Chuck Close's work. You might also drop George DeWolfe an e-mail. He runs dedicated printing workshops. Maybe he would have a recommendation. George DeWolfe Photography Hope that helps. Jack Siegel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted July 18, 2013 Share #6 Posted July 18, 2013 Actually I did that and I didn't see anything listed. It wasn't sarcasm directed at you, just factual info. And the location was clearly there when I looked right after you, so maybe he added it. And the point about searches had nothing to do with you, merely a related frustration about others in general. Nothing personal. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted July 18, 2013 Author Share #7 Posted July 18, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Actually a western suburb of Chicago and I never changed it so the search did not work for someone. I will look up printmakers Chicago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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