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Adam, this is where personal preference must dominate. High saturation is where Ektar flourishes, but my (past) experience is highlighted by so many images I see posted here that grossly emphasize Red and frequently throw a cross cast of Cyan. Dirk's pics were the most recent.

The logic of using Portra to get an Ektar look is somewhat perceived the wrong way. I would prefer to express it this way. If you want a saturated look, use Portra (typically neutral) and increase saturation in post. Why? Because Portra typically is easier to control than Ektar. This is not to say 'never use Ektar', but I would council to use it cautiously.

 

The above assumes one is going to pass through a digital phase to achieve the end result. IF one is printing in a wet darkroom, then using Ektar is probably the only real option for achieving the saturated outcome, if desired. Ah! The pleasures of choice.

 

Erl - Horses for courses, but the portras just don't work for me for most of my non-people purposes.  I'd much rather work extra hard on an Ektar scan to remove casts and balance the temps and hues than try to fit a square peg through a round hole with portra when the scene doesn't call for portra.

Take the below for example.  It is a 2-3 minute exposure w/o the use of any lens filter (color or temp correction or otherwise).  The slide films on the market today would have produced very meaningful magenta casts that only a magenta filter of a specific strength (based on the precise exposure time) would have properly corrected.  And the portras would have not reacted well to the tungsten lighting around the building and at the base of the ferris wheel (nor to the significant reciprocity failure).  The Ektar was about as good of a choice for this scene as one could have asked for.  It was my lucky night that the ferris wheel was illuminated in red.  It really showcases the Ektar's prowess.  Go ahead and Google this shot and you will find MANY MANY examples of very dramatic scenes; but very few will have the color palette of this shot. Nothing overpowering in terms of saturation; just a true true red and striking blue, with rich contrast and deep colors.  

Absolutely nothing to do with me and everything to do with the FILM.  :)

 

 

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Fantastic image Adam...my fav of your London series thus far.  SWC @ f16?

 

 

 

Erl - Horses for courses, but the portras just don't work for me for most of my non-people purposes.  I'd much rather work extra hard on an Ektar scan to remove casts and balance the temps and hues than try to fit a square peg through a round hole with portra when the scene doesn't call for portra.

Take the below for example.  It is a 2-3 minute exposure w/o the use of any lens filter (color or temp correction or otherwise).  The slide films on the market today would have produced very meaningful magenta casts that only a magenta filter of a specific strength (based on the precise exposure time) would have properly corrected.  And the portras would have not reacted well to the tungsten lighting around the building and at the base of the ferris wheel (nor to the significant reciprocity failure).  The Ektar was about as good of a choice for this scene as one could have asked for.  It was my lucky night that the ferris wheel was illuminated in red.  It really showcases the Ektar's prowess.  Go ahead and Google this shot and you will find MANY MANY examples of very dramatic scenes; but very few will have the color palette of this shot. Nothing overpowering in terms of saturation; just a true true red and striking blue, with rich contrast and deep colors.  

Absolutely nothing to do with me and everything to do with the FILM.  :)

 

 

 

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Adam...can you explain the negative effect the tungsten lighting would have caused?

 

  And the portras would have not reacted well to the tungsten lighting around the building and at the base of the ferris wheel (nor to the significant reciprocity failure).  

 

 

 

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Adam...can you explain the negative effect the tungsten lighting would have caused?

Thanks a lot, Marc!

What i mean by this is that, with the portras, the tungsten lighting would most likely have caused there to be a heavy orange color cast in the areas around the outdoor lights are. In my experience, this color cast is very difficult if not impossible to reverse.

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I agree with Mark, it's a fantastic image Adam, and like Mark am curious to know what gear used??

In fact, with many of your posts I am wondering, "SWC, or M?"

Great set from London though, really great.

Gary

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You've not forgotten how Neil?

Plus, your taking the digital thing, the "S"? :D

Gary

i hope I haven't forgot on. I guess we will find out in 10 days time
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Lovley Doc

 

Thanks Neil. It's a shame you don't visit France :)

I am in love now only with film  :)  ... my digital cam sleep in my bag

don't use them. Pixel races is finished now for me.

Best

Henry

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M2, Summicron 50, APX 100, Rodinal 1:25

 

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M2, Summicron 50, APX 100, Rodinal 1:25

 

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An old floor in a yet not renovated House in Munich. Very hard to find, these days.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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For Dirk, and other interested parties, I post my idea of colour correction of Dirk's Ferarri.

It is not perfect but I think improved. I may have made the Red of the car a little too bright, but I was not there and am only guessing.

Thanks a lot Erl. I like this version a lot too.

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M2, Summicron 50, APX 100, Rodinal 1:25

 

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Valle de la Lua, Argentina by _JM_, on Flickr

 

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Untitled by _JM_, on Flickr

 

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Untitled by _JM_, on Flickr

 

Shot in Argentina on a Horizon 202 + I forgot which "slide" film(s?) were used  !

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I agree with Mark, it's a fantastic image Adam, and like Mark am curious to know what gear used??

In fact, with many of your posts I am wondering, "SWC, or M?"

Great set from London though, really great.

Gary

Thanks a lot, Gary.  I took this with my Hasselblad SWC/M.  Best, Adam

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Erl - Horses for courses, but the portras just don't work for me for most of my non-people purposes.  I'd much rather work extra hard on an Ektar scan to remove casts and balance the temps and hues than try to fit a square peg through a round hole with portra when the scene doesn't call for portra.

Take the below for example.  It is a 2-3 minute exposure w/o the use of any lens filter (color or temp correction or otherwise).  The slide films on the market today would have produced very meaningful magenta casts that only a magenta filter of a specific strength (based on the precise exposure time) would have properly corrected.  And the portras would have not reacted well to the tungsten lighting around the building and at the base of the ferris wheel (nor to the significant reciprocity failure).  The Ektar was about as good of a choice for this scene as one could have asked for.  It was my lucky night that the ferris wheel was illuminated in red.  It really showcases the Ektar's prowess.  Go ahead and Google this shot and you will find MANY MANY examples of very dramatic scenes; but very few will have the color palette of this shot. Nothing overpowering in terms of saturation; just a true true red and striking blue, with rich contrast and deep colors.  

Absolutely nothing to do with me and everything to do with the FILM.  :)

 

 

 

 

Absolutely magnifique Adam

Great picture

Best

Henry

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