I like film...(open thread)

[Keith (M)]

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Bright winter sunshine last week at the National Trust's Lacock abbey (home of a certain William Fox-Talbot).  M7, Summaron 35mm, HP5+, Rodinal 1:50.  Developed the roll this morning, have just scanned it (V700) so quite likely there will be something of a drip-feed of images over the next few days or so

 

PS - Adam - will study and respond to your mighty upload when I have had the chance to give the images serious study.

 

 

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Bright winter sunshine last week at the National Trust's Lacock abbey (home of a certain William Fox-Talbot).  M7, Summaron 35mm, HP5+, Rodinal 1:50.  Developed the roll this morning, have just scanned it (V700) so quite likely there will be something of a drip-feed of images over the next few days or so

 

PS - Adam - will study and respond to your mighty upload when I have had the chance to give the images serious study.

A real potential this combination M7 Summaron and HP5

Very nice composition Keith

Best

Henry

[chrism]

Keith - beautiful tones. Lacock itself used to be mostly 18th century buildings in my day.

 

Henry - I'd certainly be willing to try developing a film for Adam, but I doubt I'd do better than his lab (and I'd be scared to come back if I messed it up!)

 

Chris

[chrism]

Bright sunshine on snow was my problem today, and when the cold made the battery fail in the Bessa III it didn't help! Adox CHS25, Rodinal 1+49, 7.5 minutes:

 

Mountain Brook 3 by chrism229, on Flickr

 

Mountain Brook 2 by chrism229, on Flickr

 

Mountain Brook 1 by chrism229, on Flickr

 

Contre Jour by chrism229, on Flickr

 

Chris

[Doc Henry]

Bright sunshine on snow was my problem today, and when the cold made the battery fail in the Bessa III it didn't help! Adox CHS25, Rodinal 1+49, 7.5 minutes:

 

Mountain Brook 3 by chrism229, on Flickr

 

Mountain Brook 2 by chrism229, on Flickr

 

Mountain Brook 1 by chrism229, on Flickr

 

Contre Jour by chrism229, on Flickr

 

Chris

Superb series specially 1 and 4

"True white and true black"

Ext temperature may be minus 20°-30°C,  isn't Chris ?

for your batterie problem !

Thanks for sharing

Best

Henry

[Keith (M)]

Ref #10203, another shot from Lacock Abbey & M7, Summaron 35mm, HP5+, Rodinal 1:50.  Amazing how low a shutter speed one can get away with...

 

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A pair of Dartmoor ponies, mother and son.

 

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Adox Silvermax with yellow filter

 

 

 

 

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[Keith (M)]

A pair of Dartmoor ponies, mother and son.

 

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Lovely. Toned with...?

[honcho]

Lovely. Toned with...?

 

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[Keith (M)]

Hubble, bubble, toil & trouble!  Lacock Abbey.

The Mechlin Pot, dated 1500, a great cauldron said to be the nuns' cooking vessel.  The latin inscription on the pot translates as:

 'I was moulten or made by Peter Waghuens, of Mechlin, in the year 1500. Praise be to God and glory to Christ'

 

M7, Summaron 35mm, HP5+

 

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[A miller]

Chris and Adam, about color one suggestion just to see if color difference

exist between a lab and we. I've found a difference between the development

of my usual lab and development by myself

It should be done a development test.

Like Adam can not do development at home because of the veto of his wife,

Adam would have to make two rolls in comparison on a same  subject :

one for his lab and one he sends to Chris or me for example but I am farther

 

To see between us in MP , if Adam agree and Chris you agree ?

Best

Henry

 

The variation in results is not going to depend on the development of the film.  The lab I use is used by many top professionals in NYC.  I have full faith that they give me the best negatives possible.  They might not be totally as customized as if I were to do it myself, but then again they do a great job of pushing the development when I need it.

 

The potential for variation will be in the lab's analog printing vs my scanning results and the colors that each will produce.  Here again, there is not a compelling reason to go through the extra effort of having my color negatives printed by hand in the darkroom, at least not as a general matter.  The process is much more time consuming and also more costly.  And with the C41 printing there is little dodging and burning flexibility that I have b/c the lab tolerance for doing multiple test prints.  I find that my scan + edit results are quite comparable when printed on Fuji-Flex paper, which is my favorite for color.

 

Here is an example of a photo that I took with Ektar and have shared on this thread back in the Fall.  

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Given the natural vibrance of the color palette, I had my lab make my a 10x10 analog print on glossy Fuji Crystal Archive paper.  I also had my scanned and edited file printed on Fuji-Flex (at Whitewall in Germany).  

 

Due to file size constraints I am continuing on the next post...

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[A miller]

ok, I'm back...

While you can be your own judge, I have to say that I liked my print better than my lab's.  My version has more vibrance and pop to the colors and is more 3D in its rendering, while remaining strictly faithful to the natural colors as I saw them.

Here is a rough justice comparison of the two print (analog print on the left and digital Fuji-Flex print of my scanned and edited version on the right)...

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Adam, thanks for this, a quick search on google could have answered this! (by the way do you have the 903 or 905?).

My thought on the film back was triggered by the varying sizes of the images you uploaded. I am curious why you chose the format for the images you did and whether this was due to using a 6x4.5 or 6x6 back. I could look at these images all day long. Each one has its own story. I still prefer 3 though, I think it is the lights of the building that I associate with New York. 

 

I have noted that there have been a few comments recently on cropping so did not want to relight that fire (I have no problem with cropping and will quite happily crop if that can improve my image). 

 

Good question.  All the negatives were 6x6.  And for me they were (as they always are) a clean canvas for re-framing as the resulting image dictates.  Not every composition is suitable for a square frame.  But that does not mean that a Hasselblad (which only shoots in square frames) cannot be used (like a champion, and I will tell you that the SWC is a champion) for ALL types of scenes.

 

Whether and how a frame could be appropriately reformatted depends on a number of factors, including where the tonal range and luminances fall within the frame and consequently where the eyes are drawn.  In each of the images I share above, although the subject matter and composition is essentially the same, the tones and luminences fall in different places in the frame.  This dictates a fresh approach to framing each image.  In addition, I was limited in my mobility due to the metal gate between me and the wave breaker and so was really focused on placing the Freedom Tower in the center of the frame (as I thought that was the most effective from a composition perspective).  Given my lack of ability to move closer to the wave breaker, I had no choice in terms of what foreground and sky above the buildings that I would have in each image.  It seems to me perfectly appropriate to take the giant scanned file (which has plenty of information to play with) and reframe the image to optimize the composition.  I am not convinced that my framing is optimum yet on my color photos above.  In light of continued staring and comments from others I have even tweaked some of what I have already shared.  

 

Thanks again for your input and time.

 

Best,

Adam 

[sblitz]

Doc wanted a few in this thread, so here are three, before (crossing away lower manhattan), during the storm and after ....

 

 

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and the after in Central Park ....

 

 

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Pfäffikon by -Ric Capucho-

 

 

Monster carp that have safely *grown* in a castle moat. XP2 and maybe the M6, hard to remember.

 

Question for Adam and others: can you recommend any available colour films for handheld night photography? I'm thinking to seeing how the neon lights in the seedier parts of Zürich might look in their full "glory".

 

Ric

[Doc Henry]

Pfäffikon by -Ric Capucho-

 

 

Monster carp that have safely *grown* in a castle moat. XP2 and maybe the M6, hard to remember.

 

Question for Adam and others: can you recommend any available colour films for handheld night photography? I'm thinking to seeing how the neon lights in the seedier parts of Zürich might look in their full "glory".

 

Ric

Very subtle picture with great composition  Ric

For your question about film take a kodak Portra 400 and push to 800.

If you like grain take KP 800 and push That's what I do.

I'll post for you a picture as example .

Thanks for sharing

Best

Henry

[Doc Henry]

and the after in Central Park ....

Thank you Steve for also posting in this thread for us.   

Some contributors here never go elsewhere than this thread 

I recommend you the other b&w pictures of Steve here :

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/256069-nyc-blizzard-in-bw-eastman-xx/

Best

Henry

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[Doc Henry]

ok, I'm back...

While you can be your own judge, I have to say that I liked my print better than my lab's.  My version has more vibrance and pop to the colors and is more 3D in its rendering, while remaining strictly faithful to the natural colors as I saw them.

Here is a rough justice comparison of the two print (analog print on the left and digital Fuji-Flex print of my scanned and edited version on the right)...

Adam brings here the proof of what I said , because I have found the same thing. Color

is different on the 2 prints and ultimately it is flat on inkjet , not in relief !

I feel reassured and am therefore no longer the only one to notice that photographic paper,

that this be the color or b&w is irreplaceable !

Adam, for developing tests with Chris, it was just a suggestion. but if you have confidence to

your usual laboratory, I withdraw what I had proposed

Best

Henry

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[honcho]

If I may call upon you all on more time for your "curator" input on the color version of the composition that I shared with you in B&W a week or so ago.  

As with the last series, I'd like to know which of these you feel is worthy of inclusion in a professional portfolio.

All were taken with Ektar and my Hasselblad SWC/M

 

 

Images for a 'professional' portfolio really need visual impact and it would help you search for similar subject matter and viewpoints to critically compare these images with more dramatic work.  Of the 12 you have uploaded, #2 is worthy of a little more post processing.  I would discount the rest for various reasons, manly because of composition and lack of creative impact (don't mean to appear harsh here, but you did ask for a 'professional' critique and I do spend a lot of my professional time doing this).

 

So what exactly are we looking for in this set of images for potential inclusion in a professional portfolio?  Are they intended as images for display or for illustration?

 

As an image for display, #2 shows promise in that you have caught the streaking effect of the long exposure on the clouds and the sky is always going to be an important part of a good wide angle landscape image.  As I said, a little careful work in post could enhance this aspect of the image for a touch more dramatic impact.  #12 by comparison is a nice image but rather bland for consideration for display, it is illustrative, or more accurately, editorial and could work in a magazine article for instance. 

 

 I would congratulate you on your control of colour saturation where many would be tempted to 'over cook' these.  Personally, I would persevere with the location.  Given dramatic light and cloud formations, you could create some very powerful images here.

 

Of course, all comments can be taken as subjective and as just the opinion of an individual, but it's your request for feedback from the aspect of a professional portfolio that prompted me to respond.  My comments are very much In accordance with what I would say to any of my current professional Mentees (though necessarily limited in depth here because this is an enthusiast's forum above all). 

 

Hope the above helps, you've handled Ektar well.