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R9, Summicron-R 50/2, XP2, HC-110, X1 scan:

A small existential crisis here. Fewer and fewer of my photos here are taken with a Leica M, and I've sold my MPs, M7s and digital Ms. All I'm left with is an M2. It seems I prefer the SLR way of taking photographs, but I do love the results from my Leica lenses. So I've done the obvious thing, and invested in a Leica SLR, being lucky enough to find an R9 at a reasonable price. I bought four lenses to go along with it, an Elmarit-R 28, Summicron-R 50, Summicron-R 90 and a Vario-Elmar-R 80-200. My first Elmarit-R 28 had been modified for a Canon EF adaptor, and turned out to have had its R-cam removed, so it's going back to New Zealand. The second example works fine. What's the crisis? Well, this camera is really quite hard to focus. The pseudo-split image is OK when it doesn't black out in one half or the other, but the collar of microprisms are nearly worthless. Wearing glasses it is nearly impossible to focus. Without them, and having adjusted the viewfinder's optical correction for my very mild right eye myopia I can make some sense of the microprisms. I don't really like the fake split-image devices on SLR focusing screens, but I'm going to have to use it if I'm going to keep this. The second issue is that the ergonomics of the R9 body aren't suiting me. It's not safe to carry the camera in the right hand by the grip alone - it's neither big enough for my palm, nor deep enough to hold with my fingers in a pincer grip. I probably ought not to say this on this forum, but I'm missing the F6 when I use this lumpenkamera, as I can simply get on and make the photo with my F6s and don't have to struggle against the camera. I do the composition and envisage the result in terms of aperture and shutter speed, they do the rest. And the Olympus OMs? They can't quite be trusted to get the metering perfect, but they excite me when I use them, just as Leica Ms used to do - mechanical and ergonomic perfection. I do the work, they get the picture.

 

The 28mm lens came today and a roll of Superia 400 taken with it is drying. I can focus this lens OK without glasses (and it isn't really like a 28mm lens requires a lot of care - many photos were taken at f16 using the hyperfocal method). The 50mm is a bit of a struggle, but the photos I've posted show it can be done. The 90mm hasn't turned up yet, and if it is as heavy as the Summicron-M 90s I've owned I can foresee another problem - the blasted camera doesn't have enough meat on it for me to hold it still enough to even focus with the 80-200mm lens on it, so that's an issue likely to be worse with the Summicron-R 90.

 

I want to like it. I know the R lenses are capable of so much more than my Nikon and Zuiko lenses. I'll put a few more rolls through it, especially once the 90mm comes, as I have to be able to focus on eyes. At present I'm feeling about 70:30 towards getting rid of it all. I'll get maybe 60% of the cost back by passing it on to Jean at Camtec in Montreal, and If I'm sending him them I may as well send him the M2 and remaining 35, 50 and 90 lenses. I'll give it an honest chance—as I said—I really do want to like it. At this stage, the lenses are the only thing that can save this camera and lenses from being dumped. And I'm fully aware, just as all of you are, that a good photograph doesn't depend on an exquisitely designed lens, but on composition, timing and chance. Everything else is technicalities. I hope I don't get thrown off the forum when my last working Leica is sold. (I still have a Digilux 2 with the sensor problem, and Pippa has all sorts of PanaLeicas that I have bought for her.)

 

Chris

PS: Henry, the white spots are from debris in town water after a rainstorm. Not over-rotation from the Rondinax.

Chris.

I chuckled when I read this as it mirrors my own more recent experiences. Older age, and spectacle use primarily, I love the M stuff, and have been using it since the late 60's.

 

I too have shed the M system, (don't tell Henry, just keep it between us), and settled on the R series. I already had an old Leicaflex SL, a gift from a departed friend and it really has sentimental attachment, silly as it sounds.

So, adding to the SL, I recently acquired an R6. This with the 24mm Elmarit R, the 35mm Summicron R and the 50mm Summicron R will form the basis of my daily arsenal. I have a 90mm Summicron R arriving in a day or so.

 

I had an R8 for a while, and while it really looked huge, I found it to be a very nice camera to use, surprising myself with this too. Yes it was big, and almost cumbersome but it just worked. I used it with the 35/2 and the Vario 28-70 R. But it got a bit tired towards the end, and the electronics began playing up, so I quit it, and stuck with the old SL.

 

Perhaps you could try the R9 with a different focus screen, maybe a simple ground glass and micro-prism screen? It would at least be worth a try.

 

We are a few days from setting sail to the other side of the globe and in preparation for this film adventure I gave thought to an OM system simply to take on this trip. Bought the OM3 and OM4Ti, plus 28/2, 35/2, 50/2 and was looking at a couple of other lenses. In the end though I buckled when my wife said, "just buy Leica". So it all went, and I deviated back to the SL and the R6, who am I to disagree?

 

Whatever you decide, you'll always be welcome I am sure.

Gary

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Phil it makes me smile when watching your picture ...because you seem interested our companion the seagull :)

Splendid color Phil , well framing and composing... and nice perspective for the 3 wood pikes

Henry

 

Not strictly a seagull, Henry - in fact the Australian pied cormorant according to my research on Wikipedia.

 

Also known as a shag to the non-ornithologists among us.

 

 

Hey Phil - show us one on a rock.  I might ask if I could use it as an avatar.

 

My Mum used to use that expression, Dan - "sitting there like a shag on a rock" - in other words, mindlessly doing nothing. Would make a great avatar as you suggest, but I think I'd feel compelled to use it as my own!

 

No Dan , Phil is "stray" "cat"  :D 

Henry

 

 

Now that you mention it Henry, a stray shag wouldn't go astray.

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R9, Elmarit-M 28/2.8, Fuji Superia 400, Argentix presskit, Hasselblad X1 scan:

 

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Lillies by chrism229, on Flickr

 

Not helping! Simply clicked on B&W and then split-toning. Looks like alien life-forms, says Pippa. Looks like plastic to me.

 

C.

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The light was poor for these, so apologies, but they're meaningful to me as it was my last day in my home country (UK) for I never know how long (generally seems to be at least 7-8 years between trips), so I snuck off for a walk in the Welsh countryside before a couple of Pints and a pub lunch.

 

HP5+, 50 Lux pre

St Nicholas Parish Church

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Montgomeryshire

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The Montgomeryshire County War Memorial, 

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Definitely different! I don't think I'd invest in too much ISO 100 film if I lived in Wales all the time!

 

I do love the amazing crepuscular rays you often get under little British skies, cumulus clouds whizzing by, not something we see too much here in NSW where Sunny 16 is on the menu most days.

 

A weekend of Tri-X awaits me here. :)

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R9, Summicron-R 50/2, XP2, HC-110, X1 scan:

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Grape vines by chrism229, on Flickr

 

A small existential crisis here. Fewer and fewer of my photos here are taken with a Leica M, and I've sold my MPs, M7s and digital Ms. All I'm left with is an M2. It seems I prefer the SLR way of taking photographs, but I do love the results from my Leica lenses. So I've done the obvious thing, and invested in a Leica SLR, being lucky enough to find an R9 at a reasonable price. I bought four lenses to go along with it, an Elmarit-R 28, Summicron-R 50, Summicron-R 90 and a Vario-Elmar-R 80-200. My first Elmarit-R 28 had been modified for a Canon EF adaptor, and turned out to have had its R-cam removed, so it's going back to New Zealand. The second example works fine. What's the crisis? Well, this camera is really quite hard to focus. The pseudo-split image is OK when it doesn't black out in one half or the other, but the collar of microprisms are nearly worthless. Wearing glasses it is nearly impossible to focus. Without them, and having adjusted the viewfinder's optical correction for my very mild right eye myopia I can make some sense of the microprisms. I don't really like the fake split-image devices on SLR focusing screens, but I'm going to have to use it if I'm going to keep this. The second issue is that the ergonomics of the R9 body aren't suiting me. It's not safe to carry the camera in the right hand by the grip alone - it's neither big enough for my palm, nor deep enough to hold with my fingers in a pincer grip. I probably ought not to say this on this forum, but I'm missing the F6 when I use this lumpenkamera, as I can simply get on and make the photo with my F6s and don't have to struggle against the camera. I do the composition and envisage the result in terms of aperture and shutter speed, they do the rest. And the Olympus OMs? They can't quite be trusted to get the metering perfect, but they excite me when I use them, just as Leica Ms used to do - mechanical and ergonomic perfection. I do the work, they get the picture.

 

The 28mm lens came today and a roll of Superia 400 taken with it is drying. I can focus this lens OK without glasses (and it isn't really like a 28mm lens requires a lot of care - many photos were taken at f16 using the hyperfocal method). The 50mm is a bit of a struggle, but the photos I've posted show it can be done. The 90mm hasn't turned up yet, and if it is as heavy as the Summicron-M 90s I've owned I can foresee another problem - the blasted camera doesn't have enough meat on it for me to hold it still enough to even focus with the 80-200mm lens on it, so that's an issue likely to be worse with the Summicron-R 90.

 

I want to like it. I know the R lenses are capable of so much more than my Nikon and Zuiko lenses. I'll put a few more rolls through it, especially once the 90mm comes, as I have to be able to focus on eyes. At present I'm feeling about 70:30 towards getting rid of it all. I'll get maybe 60% of the cost back by passing it on to Jean at Camtec in Montreal, and If I'm sending him them I may as well send him the M2 and remaining 35, 50 and 90 lenses. I'll give it an honest chance—as I said—I really do want to like it. At this stage, the lenses are the only thing that can save this camera and lenses from being dumped. And I'm fully aware, just as all of you are, that a good photograph doesn't depend on an exquisitely designed lens, but on composition, timing and chance. Everything else is technicalities. I hope I don't get thrown off the forum when my last working Leica is sold. (I still have a Digilux 2 with the sensor problem, and Pippa has all sorts of PanaLeicas that I have bought for her.)

 

Chris

PS: Henry, the white spots are from debris in town water after a rainstorm. Not over-rotation from the Rondinax.

 

I don't know about the R9, never had one, but the R6 has interchangeable focus screens so you can experiment to see if one makes it easier? I'd imagine the R9 must do also?

 

I like the split-image on R6 but then it's not a camera I'd use in anything but good light. Ease of focus is why I like rangefinders and not seeing the world in yellow/orange etc. when using filters.

'WYSIWYG' is a good light thing to me, since you are seeing what you'll be getting with the DOF preview lever.

 

The 90 Summicron-R - 'E55' version with the pull out hood is about my favourite lens of all time. I adore the ergonomics and the results it gives, especially with colour. If the setup doesn't feel right with that, I'd definitely consider a different body or system. I hope you figure it out, for me personally buy/sell just sucks some of the joy out of photography.

 

A couple of random, older shots with 90/2-R and Portra 400 by way of example. Good luck with yours...

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Hang outs with good looking friends :)

Leica m6 classic and 50mm cron loaded with Agfavista 200. 

Cheap 1 hour process scan. 

Reflection. 

 

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Beautiful shot, candid and relaxed and oozing with lovely grain :)

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The light was poor for these, so apologies, but they're meaningful to me as it was my last day in my home country (UK) for I never know how long (generally seems to be at least 7-8 years between trips), so I snuck off for a walk in the Welsh countryside before a couple of Pints and a pub lunch.

 

HP5+, 50 Lux pre

St Nicholas Parish Church

36062218610_3798677d1d_c.jpg

 

Montgomeryshire

36459286815_99b56b715a_c.jpg

 

HP5+, SA21

The Montgomeryshire County War Memorial, 

36322229021_be31da0d31_c.jpg

 

Richard , don't need light sometimes and keep atmosphere of this moment

no correction is a good decision... you can add luminosity,contrast, maybe some black

but your picture is not the same as original and as in your mind for your last day.

 

Now digital cameras modify this atmosphere (a night picture become the day picture >incredible.

Some people like this "distortion" , me no) and that's one of points I disagree

 

Keep like that Richard. :)

As said Gary , very "atmospheric"... may be with TX you can have a little more black but I am not sure. :)

Thank you

Best

Henry

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Cloudy and a little rainy ,  I only photograph in Kodak TX this day (not color Portra) because I don't want

to distort the atmosphere (and color has not the nice rendering) , habit I had when I used my two M

digital.

I can add luminosity , contrast in post processing like my digital camera did it with his photosoftware ....

but I say no :angry:

 

Here an example

 

Paris Montmartre

May 2017

 

 

 

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Best

Henry

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Thank you.  The 50mm summicron I have is the one with the focus tab, produced from 1979-1994 (type 4 I believe).   The 35mm summicron ASPH is the one from 1997.  Perhaps I should have my 50mm lens checked out.  It always seemed a bit soft to me, yet still beautiful for portraits.  

 

Hello,

which version of the Summicron 50 do you have? I have the last version before the APO and this is definitely sharper then my 35 mm Summicron ASPH1.

 

Regards

 

Frank

 

 

 

Glad see you back and welcome Dmitch  :)

 

The color is superb and you're right to use your M6 with Kodak Portra.

Nice framing

For your Summicron 50 you have the date (1954,1956,1979) ? and your 35 Summicron (58,71,79,97)?

 

Thanks for posting

Best

Henry

 

Thanks Dan.  These were taken from the Santa Monica pier.  I saw another leica shooter there that day at the same spot, he had a 90mm lens  :)

 

great stuff!  and how did you get up there??

 

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Richard , don't need light sometimes and keep atmosphere of this moment

no correction is a good decision... you can add luminosity,contrast, maybe some black

but your picture is not the same as original and as in your mind for your last day.

 

Now digital cameras modify this atmosphere (a night picture become the day picture >incredible.

Some people like this "distortion" , me no) and that's one of points I disagree

 

Keep like that Richard. :)

As said Gary , very "atmospheric"... may be with TX you can have a little more black but I am not sure. :)

Thank you

Best

Henry

 

Thanks Henry. The atmosphere of the moment is all I'm looking to capture with moments in (my) time like this, so film is perfect, with all its limitations with distortion and ISO and so on.

I have a little video from that exact moment (climbing a small hill in Wales to visit that War Memorial) from my phone that has colour and sound but it brings me less to the moment than these fuzzy little pictures. Vive le film!

 

That's a nice little house you have there in Paris, I must visit some day :)

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Gregor I think it's a 50  (look at 2 mn16) , may be summilux with the hood (I have the same)

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Henry

The second and third link  of A Wagner posted above are also great .

 

 

Thank you very much for your kind comment, Henry! :)

 

Color is beautiful Gregor , really beautiful

Henry

 

 

It was 2.8 lens, so I don't think it was a Summilux. And it's a 28mm. Elmarit maybe?

 

 

OK but at one point in the video he is using a 28mmm 2.8 lens. I'm talking about Andersen - the 1st video.

 

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Gentelmen,

thank you for your advices ... and for your comments. GN you have really good eyes .... respect!

 

Best

Gregor

 

PS. I will take a look to the other videos in the evening.

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Beautiful shot, candid and relaxed and oozing with lovely grain :)

 

Really nice and I agree with Richard , a little blurry gives a plus for this picture

Sensual feeling ! Superb color and nice grain (Also agree with Richard)

Thank you SP

Best

Henry

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