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How do you "under-develop"?

Under-expose, I can understand, but under-develop a shot?

I'll go make the morning coffee.

Gary

The shot was on an underdeveloped film. The negative is very flat grey. I guess I could have worded it better...
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How do you "under-develop"?

Under-expose, I can understand, but under-develop a shot?

I'll go make the morning coffee.

Gary

 

Under-developing is a perfectly normal accompaniment to over-exposure. It's what we refer to as 'pulling' (as opposed to 'pushing') a film. The point is to give more light on exposure to the darker parts of a scene so as to illuminate them, then save the over-exposed lighter parts of that scene in development by not allowing them to develop as much. So you end up with more metallic silver in the dark parts of the subject (ie the light parts of the negative are darker, and in the positive they will be lighter), and less metallic silver in the light parts (ie the dark parts of the negative will be lighter and in the positive they will be darker) than you would have expected. That is to say, less contrast, shrunken dynamic range, and maybe, just maybe, everything in the scene photographed will show up in the final print with some detail and not just white or black. Take all that kind of idea a bit further and you will end up in the zone system and developing each frame for the best result, which is the bee's knees for sheet film, but not so useful for 35mm or MF film, since you cannot expose and develop each photograph individually.

 

I think you already knew all that, but somebody might benefit from seeing it written out. Double negatives confuse, but triple negatives really mess things up. I know that you knew that I knew that you knew that already! (I think...)

 

C.

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Milan, Indiana.

 

It is "Final Four" time in USA college basketball.....in American sports, an event to rival Super Bowl. Basketball has become somewhat of an international interest, so some may have seen the great movie "Hoosiers," starring Gene Hackman. For those who have not, it is an inspirational, sports movie featuring the story of a high school basketball team from a small Indiana town. In America, it is considered one of the great sports movies. In the movie the small town is identified as Hickory, Indiana. In fact, it is the story of the 1954 high school basketball team from Milan, Indiana.

 

I had the good fortune of meeting a Milan resident as he was taking his morning coffee and cigarette break. He was very willing to share what he knew of the event and team. Of particular interest to him, was the recent news that, now, all members of the former team managed to stay in their marriages for 50 years, or more.

 

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Unfortunately, The old high school building is a thing of the past. The town water tower, commemorating the great event, survives.

 

 

 

If you have not seen the movie "Hoosiers," and you like sports stories, you should consider it.

 

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@Ian - I'm really enjoying all your great countryside shots with your Summaron. Fantastic stuff.

How do you find /5.6 and 400 speed film? Are many of these shots 'wide open'?

 

@Henry - You should jump on that 21m Super Angulon! A perfect lens for film. No metering and no built-in viewfinder but thanks to the latitude of film, so what!

I just use Sunny 16 and scale focus and only look through the 21mm Viewfinder. 21mm is a pretty familar FOV in any case.

It's great for architectural straight lines, just perfect, and on colour film it gives a superb character/imperfection for me. 

A couple more examples with it.

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I also spent the weekend in the laundry (my darkroom), making little 5x7 prints from 6x6 negatives. Just an awesome way to spend a weekend, I'm only sorry it's Monday morning.
I don't have a way to scan prints to share, and to be honest the more I wet print, the less motivated I am to scan all the film I expose.
 
@Philip - those 400 speed colour negatives were scanned with a Pakon F135 - the Kodak magic in the software means I rarely do any PP on them, just removing dust. I think it really nails the colour and exposure pretty much every time. I prefer 400 speed colour film in general for its subtle grain.
Feed and forget scanning is much more appealing, and I don't print colour negatives 'in house'. Unfortunately I don't like the results I get for B&W with it, or I'd throw those through it as well.
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@Ian - I'm really enjoying all your great countryside shots with your Summaron. Fantastic stuff.

How do you find /5.6 and 400 speed film? Are many of these shots 'wide open'?

 

Many thanks. Very few if any are wide-open. I try and avoid F5.6 if I can – the vignetting starts to come into play (though not as noticeably as appears to be the case with this lens on a digital M) and the corners are soft at that aperture. I also prefer a more stopped down look and tend to use the more "natural" depth of field you get from subject placement and focus distance. In the main, I haven't had a problem using 400 speed film and this lens for the type of photography I tend to do. 100 speed film is likely to be a different case and I'm pondering my options here as I have quite a large stock (by my standards) of T-max 100 that I want to start using again.

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Finally I managed to shoot some pics on film again.

Rolleiflex 3,5F, Tmax 400, D76. I also made some slides from this beautiful Magnolia, but not developed, yet.

This old industrial building will be gone in some weeks, but nature refreshes every spring, no matter what we do.

 

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Some more SL flower pics.

Leicaflex SL

50 Summicron R

Kodak 200

Epson 4870

Gary

 

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Muscari botryoides or grape hyacint in English, I believe. In Swedish "pärlhyacint" meaning "pearl" hyacint. Shot against a frosted glass wall on our terrace a few weeks ago.

 

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These are very nice Gary. 

 

Thank you Philip, I'm actually enjoying the old Leicaflex and flower shooting. I've got quite a few to dump on you all, but will drip feed them.

I see you've added another extension tube?

Gary

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Excellent, I'm looking forward to more.

 

Yes, I found a 32E in Sweden at Classiccamera.se (very good seller for Hasselblad stuff) and in fact a 56E as well just the other day. So now I'll be able to shoot 1:1 with the 80 Planar.

 

 

 

Thank you Philip, I'm actually enjoying the old Leicaflex and flower shooting. I've got quite a few to dump on you all, but will drip feed them.
I see you've added another extension tube?
Gary

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Werra IV rangefinder (Rubik's Cube,) Jena 50mm 2.8, HP5.

 

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Milan, Indiana.

 

It is "Final Four" time in USA college basketball.....in American sports, an event to rival Super Bowl. Basketball has become somewhat of an international interest, so some may have seen the great movie "Hoosiers," starring Gene Hackman. For those who have not, it is an inspirational, sports movie featuring the story of a high school basketball team from a small Indiana town. In America, it is considered one of the great sports movies. In the movie the small town is identified as Hickory, Indiana. In fact, it is the story of the 1954 high school basketball team from Milan, Indiana.

 

I had the good fortune of meeting a Milan resident as he was taking his morning coffee and cigarette break. He was very willing to share what he knew of the event and team. Of particular interest to him, was the recent news that, now, all members of the former team managed to stay in their marriages for 50 years, or more.

 

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Unfortunately, The old high school building is a thing of the past. The town water tower, commemorating the great event, survives.

 

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If you have not seen the movie "Hoosiers," and you like sports stories, you should consider it.

 

IIIA, Canon 50mm 1.4 LTM, HP5

Didn't General Hackman's character get sacked by one of the top teams for having a drink problem and he was persuaded to come back to coaching?

 

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Excellent, I'm looking forward to more.

 

Yes, I found a 32E in Sweden at Classiccamera.se (very good seller for Hasselblad stuff) and in fact a 56E as well just the other day. So now I'll be able to shoot 1:1 with the 80 Planar.

I've got plenty more flower shots, but between us we might get the thread all flowered out :lol:

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Didn't General Hackman's character get sacked by one of the top teams for having a drink problem and he was persuaded to come back to coaching?

 

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Like all movies, some things are not exactly true. The Hackman character does land this job as a sort of last chance, related to a problem in previous employ as a coach; I do not think, in movie, drinking had anything to do with it. There is, however, an issue with a drinking assistant coach. It does have great human interest aspects.......Aside from the basketball.

 

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