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Being the "read it in chronological order" sorta guy I am, I looked at your shot above, and said to myself, "Hmmmm, a bit less flash, and/or a bit more background would be my take".

Then I read Erl's suggestion, and thought we're on the same page here, this is a plus.

Then read yours, and while I am in the Erl camp, I can see what you are after, and appreciate it.

Either way, zapped or not, I applaud you for standing/shooting is the garbage weather and so close to a subject that one day will seek to remonstrate with you.

You're brave Adam, brave.

Gary

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Being the "read it in chronological order" sorta guy I am, I looked at your shot above, and said to myself, "Hmmmm, a bit less flash, and/or a bit more background would be my take".

Then I read Erl's suggestion, and thought we're on the same page here, this is a plus.

Then read yours, and while I am in the Erl camp, I can see what you are after, and appreciate it.

Either way, zapped or not, I applaud you for standing/shooting is the garbage weather and so close to a subject that one day will seek to remonstrate with you.

You're brave Adam, brave.

Gary

Thanks, Gary. Clearly, if i wanted to go more gentle, i could. But i dont, so i won't ;)
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Adam, the jury is in. You got the shot you wanted. And not everyone does!

Some clarification, just to discuss, nothing more.

My suggestion would NOT alter the ambient exposure, which you have nailed, IMO. The atmosphere is perfect, and I am sure true. All I envisage is reducing ONLY the flash input, which to my eye would 'place' the subject as belonging in the scene. In fact I would even shoot without the flash (not your style I know). Your style for these pics reminds me of the old Hollywood movies where the essential subject is separately lit from the overall set. This has a certain effect, which I am sure is exactly what you want.

 

If you would go so far as to indulge me, would you shoot a sample of your snow/street subjects for me WITHOUT the flash. I would love to see the result, and to see if the atmosphere of the image changes the way I think it would. :)

 

Edit: I would do the shot myself but we never see snow here in Melbourne.

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Back to the snow.....trying to impress Gary (I like the challenge)....  :D

M7, 28mm elmarit pre-asph v4, Portra 400

As always, I like the shot, Adam.

 

I am curious, as I own an M7, are you doing anything to protect the camera from the elements? Or is it tough enough that you just have to keep it sheltered in a pocket, or something, between shots? Pardon my ignorance on this, I have never paid much attention to use of these cameras in foul weather.....as I never do it.

 

Who knows, maybe in retirement- in a few years- I will get bored and decide to go out in a blizzard and blast away. You make it look kind of fun. I wish I would have thought to do something like this in my youth, on USS Barry (Destroyer) during one of those storms in North Atlantic. I had an Olypus XA in those days.....Man against the elements! My favorite is still the "blue-collar" type shrugging it off without gloves. :)

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Ok...shooting color now because I've started to print color. :)
I acquired a Jobo CPE2 from a member of another analogue forum and so this is my first roll of film processed in a Jobo. I'm very impressed. The negatives look very good. They scanned very easily, effortless.


Image #1:
Veggies at Walmart.

Image #2:
Myself (on the left) with the man who sold me the Jobo. (He's also my beard goal now.)

Image #3:
On the way back from Virginia we passed through many small towns in West Virginia and there were a LOT of interesting things to photograph. This is an area next to a convenience store where they apparently don't want people to walk their dogs.

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Adam, the jury is in. You got the shot you wanted. And not everyone does!

Some clarification, just to discuss, nothing more.

My suggestion would NOT alter the ambient exposure, which you have nailed, IMO. The atmosphere is perfect, and I am sure true. All I envisage is reducing ONLY the flash input, which to my eye would 'place' the subject as belonging in the scene. In fact I would even shoot without the flash (not your style I know). Your style for these pics reminds me of the old Hollywood movies where the essential subject is separately lit from the overall set. This has a certain effect, which I am sure is exactly what you want.

 

If you would go so far as to indulge me, would you shoot a sample of your snow/street subjects for me WITHOUT the flash. I would love to see the result, and to see if the atmosphere of the image changes the way I think it would. :)

 

Edit: I would do the shot myself but we never see snow here in Melbourne.

 

Erl - Here's an image that to me illustrates what happens when the flash is not used during my workflow:

1.  No separation of main subjects and background

2.  The relative underexposure of the background (which normally isn't a big deal) now permeates throughout the entire image including my subject - as I indicated above, to correct this I would need to open up at least a full stop, which will meaningfully diminish the DOF.  I actually had to open up the shadows and increase the exposure a bit in PP in oder to get it to where it is, which is a muddy mess.

3.  The use of the flash captures sharpness in the main subject; it is evident here b/c the main subjects are unacceptably soft.  If you notice in my images the background is typically soft but, with the help of the flash, the zap given to the main subject appears sharp (or at least acceptably so).  Very important due to the very slow shutter speed that I am forced to use (due to the lack of HSS) and the fact that I am often in motion)!!

3.  No ZAP! No good!

This is exactly my kind of shot that - in my opinion -  was ruined by not using the flash.  It has a lot potential but falls on its face. :(

 

To the jury I say - I rest my case!!! :)

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As always, I like the shot, Adam.

 

I am curious, as I own an M7, are you doing anything to protect the camera from the elements? Or is it tough enough that you just have to keep it sheltered in a pocket, or something, between shots? Pardon my ignorance on this, I have never paid much attention to use of these cameras in foul weather.....as I never do it.

 

Who knows, maybe in retirement- in a few years- I will get bored and decide to go out in a blizzard and blast away. You make it look kind of fun. I wish I would have thought to do something like this in my youth, on USS Barry (Destroyer) during one of those storms in North Atlantic. I had an Olypus XA in those days.....Man against the elements! My favorite is still the "blue-collar" type shrugging it off without gloves. :)

 

Ha, ha, thanks, Wayne.  Love your post!  It was the result of you dutiful service that I can express myself freely like this.  So thank you!

 

As for your question, I keep the camera in my coat when I am not using it.  It does get very wet, and I carry a microfiber towel to wipe it down with.  It is what it is; I could definitely be destroying my camera and lens.  But what the hell!

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Adam, I see the difference, and I like it!

The subjects 'belong' more in their environment.

I get that it is not your style and accept that.

We just have some differences in taste.

Don't get me wrong, I still like your pics, it's just that my bias says one shouldn't be overly conscious of the flash in pics.

I have to live with that, not you. :p

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Adam, I see the difference, and I like it!

The subjects 'belong' more in their environment.

I get that it is not your style and accept that.

We just have some differences in taste.

Don't get me wrong, I still like your pics, it's just that my bias says one shouldn't be overly conscious of the flash in pics.

I have to live with that, not you. :p

 

Just goes to illustrate how one man's trash is another man's treasure! :)

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Here is a portrait of my dad that I took as we wandered around my backyard. He has Alzheimers so we don't really talk about anything of much importance but it is nice to just be together :) Leica M6TTL and the amazing 75/1.4 on Ilford HP5

 

 I really like this "easy" looking portraits. No big fuzz just a camera and the right moment to press the button.

 

I once made a picture of my aunts father. She didnt like it she told me for no reason.

Years later after he died she found it again and told me "Stefan, this is exactly how he was"

 

Thanks for sharing !  :)

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Thank you for posting. Your photo will no doubt strike a cord with many of us.

 

I hope you enjoy the thread and welcome! Enjoy it can be quite lively here. Above all don't be afraid to post. There is a wealth of experience on tap and much enthusiasm for the medium.

 

Kind regards

 

Christopher

 

 

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Here is a portrait of my dad that I took as we wandered around my backyard. He has Alzheimers so we don't really talk about anything of much importance but it is nice to just be together :) Leica M6TTL and the amazing 75/1.4 on Ilford HP5

 

Thank you for posting. Your photo will no doubt strike a cord with many of us.

 

I hope you enjoy the thread and welcome! Enjoy it can be quite lively here. Above all don't be afraid to post. There is a wealth of experience on tap and much enthusiasm for the medium.

 

Kind regards

 

Christopher

 

 

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Here is a portrait of my dad that I took as we wandered around my backyard. He has Alzheimers so we don't really talk about anything of much importance but it is nice to just be together :) Leica M6TTL and the amazing 75/1.4 on Ilford HP5

 

It's a very beautiful and touching portrait of your dad.

 

Best

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He's just getting cigarettes

 

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Leica M7, Fuji Superia, Nikon CoolScan V ED

 

 

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Adam, I see the difference, and I like it!

The subjects 'belong' more in their environment.

I get that it is not your style and accept that.

We just have some differences in taste.

Don't get me wrong, I still like your pics, it's just that my bias says one shouldn't be overly conscious of the flash in pics.

I have to live with that, not you. :p

Sorry Adam, I'm with Erl.

But like he states, your pic, your style, each is happy.

Keep 'em coming.

Gary

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My first summer with the Leica M6 TTL. I had 3 lenses then, the Summaron 35mm f3.5, Elmar 50mm f2.8 collapsible and the 90/2.8 tele-Elmarit. All shot on Kodak Portra 160 and processed by Müller film processing service in Fulda, Germany. The photos are from our first visit to Playmobil Zirndorf in 2015.

 

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Portrait taken with 90mm lens on the pirates ship.

 

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Riding the zebra

 

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My daughter with my Sister under the fountain.

 

These were evidence to me that film could be a viable option to digital even when it mattered to record precious unforgettable memories.

 

Kind regards

 

Christopher

 

 

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Here is a portrait of my dad that I took as we wandered around my backyard. He has Alzheimers so we don't really talk about anything of much importance but it is nice to just be together :) Leica M6TTL and the amazing 75/1.4 on Ilford HP5

This is a great portrait. You should get a nice print of this, you would enjoy it for years to come.

 

You have got me interested in the 75 1.4 lens!

 

 

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My first summer with the Leica M6 TTL.

 

These were evidence to me that film could be a viable option to digital even when it mattered to record precious unforgettable memories.

 

Kind regards

 

Christopher

 

 

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More than viable, and especially if you subscribe to the Doc Henry thought that in years to come your negatives will still be there while your digital files may not.

Very viable indeed Christopher, nice set.

Gary

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