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Henry, that is interesting but I think that is more a comparison of the difference between dye based film (Portra) and silver based film (Tri-X) rather than any kind of proof that B&W converted colour is inherently inferior to B&W. Comparisons are the kind of thing I want to get away from when choosing to use film. Better IMO to use what you have available or what is practical to use in given circumstances rather than get wrapped up in what might be a bit better.

 

Ian, I think

-firstly disposition of silver grain in coat film gelatine for color and for b&w

is not the same.

-secondly it involves the impression by light , not the same impression 

in different layers too.

I also compared color picture of the M9 , converted to b&w , black is "blocked" and

unhomogeneous like in the case of film but more accentuated , not nice at all.

I prefer keeping the photo in color !

May be Lightroom doesn't not converted correctly but when I use the enlarger

all details are visible in the shadows.

If you still have digital M camera do it and compare.

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Henry

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Another ballon for you and in contre-jour , hope you like  :)

 

 

Kodak Portra 400-Leica M7-28 Summicron Asph

 

 

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Sorry - I moved it on Zenfolio. Here it is again:

 

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I am glad to see this one came back. That Pop, and his valuable guidance toward posting photos, is quite an asset. I love this one, and immediately recognized the the pending storm with bright sunshine sneaking in. Great scene....And with Velvia in hand. Thrilling.

 

Thanks,

 

Wayne

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For what it's worth Wayne I don't think the weed growing out of the seat or whatever matters a jot. This well-observed scene is about isolation, and mystery, and things hidden, and it's a bit creepy. It puts me in mind of Winogrand's amazing picture of the child on the tricycle in New Mexico with a dark doorway behind and looming storm clouds behind that. In your picture the windows are all closed or at least the blinds are closed - no-one is watching over where this child has been - perhaps they're inside watching satellite TV, and the child's tricycle is inexplicably left abandoned in a neglected, unloved wasteland. A picture that raises many more questions than answers, and is the stronger for it.

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I posted one, in color, of this scene awhile back. This is with Topcon R camera, Topcor 58mm 1.8 lens, and HP5. The weed growing out of the seat has taught me that I am far from mastering composition.

 

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Wayne yes I remember in color with Svema film isn't ?

The b&w version is different , the color is "rural vintage" but the b&w is a bit dramatic

with the tricycle abandoned ! I like both versions :) and b&w with Ilford HP5 is great

nice grain

Thanks for posting

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Henry

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An old shooting companion of mine, we tried a spot of dredging a while back.

500C/M

80 Planar

Fuji RDP

Epson 4870

Gary

 

Gary color definition and contrast perfect in this picture

Look at the skin of the face nice color

 

R6

24 Elmarit R

T-Max100

R09 1:25

Plustek 8100

Gary

 

Black beautiful . Yes It's black of Kodak TMAX 100 , a little soft like Fuji Acros

a little "smoothish"

Thanks Gary

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This is with one of the "dogs", the 2,8cm f6.3 Hektor.

 

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Velvia 100

 

And a close-up of the ship, shot on a different day. It's apparently the Elida

 

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90 Elmarit-M Velvia 100

 

Calm and plenitude :)

Superb color , soft and pleasant to watch

Two relaxing pictures Philip. The very old Hektor still gives great color :)

Magnifique blue sky and sea !

Thank you

Henry

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Phil, 

 

I could not agree more on the sentiments and thoughts expressed by Dan and you. Shortly after visiting Australia earlier this year, I embarked on a 14 day tour in Italy, just me, my backpack and my M5 ... and I loved every meter of the 290 km by-foot journey. I'd say those are life-changing experiences (except perhaps that my life hasn't changed really). 

In contrast, particularly, to Adam's viewpoint on using "professional" film exclusively I embarked on this journey using decidedly non-professional film only. That shows in the results, as you will be able to discover in my next few pictorial contributions, but it also was exactly what I wanted to achieve. 

 

With that let me begin with a few pictures of Florence, my starting point.

Figurine in the Basilica Santa Croce.

 

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M5, 40, Adox Color Implosion, ns

 

Rgds

 

C. 

wonderful!

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I think this was with the Hexar Af (a bit of a favourite of mine despite the 1/250 limit on the shutter) - Evening, at Kirra beach (Gold Coast, Qld., Australia) - sorry I don't remember the film

P.S. I love clouds  :)

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After all the R5 & Acros100 offerings, here is an M7 & HP5+ one (ZM 50mm Planar).

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This is with one of the "dogs", the 2,8cm f6.3 Hektor.

 

36328943846_f5ef887283_b.jpg

Flickr

Velvia 100

 

And a close-up of the ship, shot on a different day. It's apparently the Elida

 

36237204311_6dcd8c49e3_b.jpg

Flickr

90 Elmarit-M Velvia 100

I have affection for the "dogs," be they four legged, or made of metal and glass. I am particularly fond of the Hektors. It is a funny thing, early on, as I considered what lenses to buy, most all information I came across on the various Hektor lenses was uncomplimentary. At the time, there were very few examples of photographs taken with 28mm 6.3 or 50mm 2.5 Hektors available for viewing on the web.

 

I have been porting around a Plaubel Roll-Op, the Topcon R, and my trusty IID with 50mm 2.5 Hektor attached. I own and use way too much gear, but, of late, the IID and Hektor are always with me. I lack the experience and knowledge of most on this forum and find it a real joy to partake with all of you. For me, at this stage, the 50mm 2.5 Hektor is a somewhat perfect playground: its imperfections always surprise, I never expect exactly what I have seen, but rather, a surprisingly amazing view I could never otherwise have enjoyed.......It amazes me in the same way kaleidoscopes amazed me in my youth.

 

Thanks for the shots. I love them............both; but especially the first.

 

Wayne

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For what it's worth Wayne I don't think the weed growing out of the seat or whatever matters a jot. This well-observed scene is about isolation, and mystery, and things hidden, and it's a bit creepy. It puts me in mind of Winogrand's amazing picture of the child on the tricycle in New Mexico with a dark doorway behind and looming storm clouds behind that. In your picture the windows are all closed or at least the blinds are closed - no-one is watching over where this child has been - perhaps they're inside watching satellite TV, and the child's tricycle is inexplicably left abandoned in a neglected, unloved wasteland. A picture that raises many more questions than answers, and is the stronger for it.

Thank you for the comment. It makes me look at the photo again. It was a fairly bright day; the shadows, cast by tricycle, sort of emphasize the bleakness of the background. Sort of like watching a ray of sunshine illuminate something as it comes through a crack in the heavy curtains of a bar, at noon, on a beautiful day. It sends the mind toward thinking about life and priority.  

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Yes Wayne  sea , waves ... the best well and faithfully reproduced by film color as b&w :)

 

 

Low tide and in Kodak TX400

 

 

35 Summilux Asph-MP

 

 

 

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Spots are not dust or scratch on sensor , but walkers  :D 

eh !  recognize you was afraid  !

 

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Henry

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..... :)

 

Kodak TX400-MP-35 Lux A.

The nuance of TX is redoubtable  !

 

 

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No spots , no corrosion here :D

Rg

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