I like film...(open thread)

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Mitch difficult to compare because not the same shot.

But I already notice one thing the skin is whiter on the second photo ...

The fact that the face is smooth and perfect in the first picture catches me a little.

Is that in reality a skin is so perfect and so smooth like that ?

It is beautiful to see, it impresses at first, but it is not sustainable we look at the photo then we move to another...

The second portrait is perhaps imperfect but I find it less flat, more consistent, has thickness, the skin is not perfect.

And it is for this reason that I say "artistic" in the true sense of the term.

A skin is not smooth, anatomically speaking, in short not perfect, it has pores (well reproduced by grain of film) and are not smoothed...

Bangkok

 

Chiang Mai

 

Henry - Having just returned from a trip upcountry, yesterday I didn't have a chance to comment on what you wrote abut how the skin is rendered in the two portraits. I think that both portraits are expressive, but the first one (M-Monnochrom) does not show "smoother skin" — on the contrary, the rendering is more like medium format film, with every little wrinkle and imperfection of the skin visible, even in this small JPG. It's the second (Tri-X/Rodinal) portrait in which the skin looks smoother because the fine details are not visible under the high contrast, artificial light of the indoor sales stall, which falls directly on the subjects face; nor does the grain visible on the high tones of the face look like "pores."

 

Just to add some information of general interest but not relevant to the digital/film discussion here. The second portrait was taken in passing, shot while I was walking. The first portrait was shot during a ½-hour conversation. I had sat down to speak and, in the middle of the conversation asked whether I could photograph her; she said, "sure" — and did not change her posture and did' pose: this is how she was sitting, perfectly natural. This 52-year old woman lives in a shack built by her family 30 years ago along the railway track in the Pratunam (“watergate”) area of Bangkok. She expects that within a few years the shack will be torn down, as the state railways have started evicting squatters some 100 meters away, in order to repossess the land and turn in into a “pay parking” lot. She said, "it's getting difficult to feed a family of 200 baht (US$6) per day".

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[A miller]

Lisbon again:

 

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MP, 135, Fomapan100, ns

 

Rgds

 

C.

 

This one is stellar IMO.  I am afraid for the boy 

[A miller]

Embracing the red halo with Cinestill 800T

IIIg, 28mm summaron

NYC

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[Wayne]

IIIA, Hektor 50mm 2.5

 

Fuji Superia 800

 

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Love the Lisbon shots, a great combination indeed..

 

 

Last from a roll of Portra 400, 90/2-R

 

The weathering sandstone that dominates this part of the coast.

It appears in all kinds of colours, from vivid butter through to deep reds, looks like I found a section of the 18% grey blend here.

 

[christoph_d]

This one is stellar IMO.  I am afraid for the boy 

 

 

Adam, 

 

Thanks for the feedback. There was no need for fear, the child was lifted to safety shortly afterwards...

 

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C.

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Finally organized my "Anonymous" New Yorkers series into a photo book.

All but two were taken with my 28mm summaron.  

Hope you like!

http://www.blurb.com/b/7548006-anonymous-new-yorkers

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Adam,

 

Fully realising that I may not be your target group  nevertheless a few comments on your books. 

 

No comments on the pictures, they are simply good.

My recommendation for the layout would be to put only one picture per double page. This introduces a stricter "rhythm", concentrates the view and avoids one picture detracting from another. As examples for books where this has successfully been done (imho) please look at:

• R. Frank, The Americans, Steidl, 1959/2008, ISBN 9783865216588 
• C. Westerbeck, Joel Meyerowitz, Phaidon, 2001, ISBN 0714845094

I would also consider to add some descriptive text either as introduction to the book or per photo. I particularly like some description of the circumstances of the picture taking as can be seen in the above Meyerowitz book. A nice alternative to that can be seen in the following book which contains the descriptions of each picture on a few pages in the back of the book:

•  R. Axelsson, Faces of the north, Mal go manning, ISBN 1904945120

I noticed that I generally return much more often to viewing those photo books that contain some descriptions of the pictures compared to those that simply contain picture viewing pages (they remind me too much of stock-photography catalogues).

 

Best regards,

 

C.

[A miller]

Adam,

 

Fully realising that I may not be your target group  nevertheless a few comments on your books. 

 

No comments on the pictures, they are simply good.

My recommendation for the layout would be to put only one picture per double page. This introduces a stricter "rhythm", concentrates the view and avoids one picture detracting from another. As examples for books where this has successfully been done (imho) please look at:

• R. Frank, The Americans, Steidl, 1959/2008, ISBN 9783865216588 
• C. Westerbeck, Joel Meyerowitz, Phaidon, 2001, ISBN 0714845094

I would also consider to add some descriptive text either as introduction to the book or per photo. I particularly like some description of the circumstances of the picture taking as can be seen in the above Meyerowitz book. A nice alternative to that can be seen in the following book which contains the descriptions of each picture on a few pages in the back of the book:

•  R. Axelsson, Faces of the north, Mal go manning, ISBN 1904945120

I noticed that I generally return much more often to viewing those photo books that contain some descriptions of the pictures compared to those that simply contain picture viewing pages (they remind me too much of stock-photography catalogues).

 

Best regards,

 

C.

Thanks very much, Christoph.  I really appreciate the time you took to pull your thoughts together and provide the constructive feedback.  I must say that I fully agree with you as it relates to the "Anonymous" book.  The way I have come to think about it -  thanks to feed Eoin, you and others -  is that if I am going to get so narrow with the sub-genre, I should really add more dimensions to the book, principally by adding text that gives more of the flavor of what it feels like to walk through these scenes and the background behind some of the shots.  Another dimension is the one that you pointed out about diversifying the format and sizes of the photos and layout.  There is plenty of bandwidth to do this and I think it is a really good idea.  I had instinctively not done this b/c I wanted to present the image as it would be if one purchased a print.  But I think with this particular book it is more about just flipping through it and enjoying it rather than with the intention of looking for a print to purchase.

 

The other two books that I have created (Dead Sea and NYC Cityscapes) are much more about serving as an encapsulated portfolio and less about a true coffee table book.  Given this purpose, I wanted to be minimalistic about the format and layout.  Having said this, I still want to think about whether I should broaden the scope to include a subset (call it 30) of the "highlights" of my favorite cityscapes (whether sunsent/sunrise or not) for 2016.  I am going to think about this more as it may be not only more diverse and therefore interesting to view, but also strengthen the chosen collection in the book.

 

In any case, lots for me to think about and I'm glad that I aired out my laundry!

 

Thanks again!

[A miller]

Speaking of real photo books, the 3rd and final edition of the NSEW by the Film Shooters Collective has just been released for purchase.

 

It is filled with 180 pages of wonderful film photographs from photographs all over the world.

 

They were nice enough to include a few of my NYC snow blizzard series....

 

http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/invited/6672510/6ebb26037d3b27fd7d61603ec259f18dd95104cb

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Red, White & Blue  MP, 28mm Elmarit-M ASPH, Portra 400.

 

 

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[DirkR440]

another one from Bellinzona:

 

Bellinzona by Dirk Raffel, auf Flickr

[mikemgb]

St. Louis Zoo, Leica IIIa, Elmar 5cm f3.5 Red Scale. Delta 100.

 

 

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[honcho]

Film Photographers International Facebook group for real photographers who use film! 

 

Over 750 member and growing, all welcome.

[A miller]

Film Photographers International Facebook group for real photographers who use film! 

 

Over 750 member and growing, all welcome.

Yes, Steve and kudos to you for launching this effort My problem is that i dont use FB and just opened an account bu dont really jnow where to start or what to do. Perhaps joining your group would be a good start!

[gbealnz]

I'm worse than Adam Steve, I detest F/B. I'll likely never have an account.

Good idea though, well done.

Gary

[honcho]

Yes, Steve and kudos to you for launching this effort My problem is that i dont use FB and just opened an account bu dont really jnow where to start or what to do. Perhaps joining your group would be a good start!

Why not, Adam!  Get your work seen by another audience, take inspiration from the work of others.

 

You never know where things may lead.  I was contacted by an agency this morning, enquiring about licensing after someone saw my Wild Light Photography Workshops page on Facebook. 

[honcho]

I'm worse than Adam Steve, I detest F/B. I'll likely never have an account.

Good idea though, well done.

Gary

 

It's true the world doesn't need Facebook, Gary!

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Back to HP5+

 

 

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A bride from China, who traveled from Szechuan with her groom, a couple of friends and a photographer to be married in Chiang Mai. Here, I photographed her in the coffee shop cum photo gallery of the small film photo lab (UNG Handcraft Darkroom). The group stopped to have lattés, before continuing their photo shoot of the bridal couple in the street. She's wearing a white wedding dress. The photographer, who spoke some English, came over to me and said, "Oh, you have an M3. I used to have an M6." Indeed, this is the first picture I shot with the virtually pristine Leica M3 that I just received from Japan, at the end of a roll of Tri-X that I had shot to test the shutter speeds.

 

M3 | DR Summicron-50 | Tri-X @ 400 | Stand development in Rodinal

Chiang Mai

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[A miller]

Why not, Adam!  Get your work seen by another audience, take inspiration from the work of others.

 

You never know where things may lead.  I was contacted by an agency this morning, enquiring about licensing after someone saw my Wild Light Photography Workshops page on Facebook. 

 

at this point i am suffering from a bit of shyness as i only have a blank fb page.  but i will see about filling it out and joining