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Philip, if you want a substantive canevas effect with abstract flower pot ,  the third pleases me
If you want a photo the second picture with a good black tone on a light background
In both cases the crop is better than the first picture.

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Henry

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Perhaps I can burden the thread with this, three photos of the same motif. Which one don't you like and why (more interesting to ask than which one you like and why :) )?

 

They differ a bit in terms of post-processing, sorry about that, but I'm more curious here about preferences regarding composition.

 

Thanks for your thoughts

 

 

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The second for me, Philip. Quite clearly so

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The SWC shots are really great Adam, I think partly made by the superb blue skies.

Top shots.

Gary

Thanks, Gary. I think the credit for the lovely blue sky is attributable to the Velvia 50. and also the fact that i shot in the opposite direction of where the sin was rising (it was around 9:30am), and so the western horizon was (by definition) a deep and evenly distributed blue.
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Day of departure a great sunset , under a nice time

 

 

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Hi Marc

 

Thanks for describing your workflow. It is impressively meticulous. I always find it interesting to learn how other photographers work.

 

I have both the G and GR trays. As you say the GR only allows one frame but does have ANR glass and permits rotating the neg a few degrees to straighten images. I have had Newton rings also with this tray and the rotating function isn't of much use since I've devised a way to straighten 6x6 images using some nifty Photoshop-Fu involving inverse selections and black Hasselblad frames that can be applied to a straightened image. 

 

I think I tried using the masks early on but I'll give that another try to check the results. Thank you for reminding me of this.

 

The G tray which I upgraded with the Focal Point ANR glass didn't really help much with the Newton rings. The irritating thing is that such rings don't always appear so it's hit or miss, which is frustrating due to loss of time. I guess with more careful handling on my part with respect to dust I could use the G tray and only the "ordinary" glass to get a flat scan but wet mounting isn't much of a hassle actually and it allows me to scan quite fast because I preview each frame at the scan DPI (in my case always 2000 which I think is a good time-quality balance) so there is only one pass.

 

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Philip

Philip if I understand you have Newton rings right ?

What about this ANR glass ?

http://www.betterscanning.com/scanning/insert.html

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Henry

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Thanks very much for your thoughts. I realise the comparison would have been better if the post-processing had been more similar, particularly regarding tonality. Still it is interesting to see people's preferences. I often think about composition, not only when I am actually photographing but also and perhaps even more when I am doing other things. My own favourite is the middle one too.

 

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Philip

 

Philip,
You asked, otherwise I would not be critical.
My favourite is the middle/darker of the three. Which means my least liked is split between the other two. Mainly because I feel the two are foggy looking. I like the more defined darker tone.
Gary

 

 

Philip, if you want a substantive canevas effect with abstract flower pot ,  the third pleases me
If you want a photo the second picture with a good black tone on a light background
In both cases the crop is better than the first picture.

Best

Henry

 

 

The second for me, Philip. Quite clearly so

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If I use glass I sometimes do get Newton rings. I haven't tried the Better Scanning ANR glass but Focal Point's but it doesn't help. Wet mounting isn't a problem though and has the added benefit of dealing with dust.

 

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Philip

 

 

Philip if I understand you have Newton rings right ?

What about this ANR glass ?

http://www.betterscanning.com/scanning/insert.html

Best

Henry

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Gary,

 

As always, thanks for your suggestions and recommendations.  I think I knew the answer to, "Do I need it", before I even posted the question  :).  I like the fact that it keeps things organized it one place, at a controlled temp throughout the process.  The real kicker was the continuous agitation without having to intervene every few min, this seems helpful.

 

I was just wondering if those here had any experience with it as it seemed pretty cool; was also curious about durability.  I learned how to develop 35mm B&W film at camp when I was 8; using a can opener, and plastic tanks...I advanced to using steel toward the end :).    I have yet to try it at home, but I think I'm ready to jump back in. I've seen too much variability in the work I get from the lab I use, in addition to the time and cost of going into New York to have it processed and then picking it back up. Because of the latter, I find myself waiting until I have several rolls to develop before they are processed.  This will put the results in my hands much faster,   I'll let you know where I land as the decision will probably happen soon.  Thanks again!

 

 

Marc,

Not sure if anyone has actually given you their full thoughts on your question.

 

I've home processed for years 50 or so years. But only B&W. I've never tried C41 or E6, never.

 

The auction you linked to is what I'd say the ultimate DIY kit would include, and if the seller is close to you (don't know, but NY?) then I'd say even if you pay a bit more than ordinarily you would expect, it would be worth it.

 

Do you need it? That's the question. It's equivalent to a fair bit of over the counter developing though, cost wise. BUT......... as the Doc will always tell you, nobody does it better than yourself. Only you can decide that.

 

In essence, any processing can be done with a bare minimum of actual gear, simple tank, some graduates, and a decent thermometer, plus the chemicals of course. Just depends on whether you want THE best, or are happy to just process with a simple gear.

 

Either way, only you can decide.

Gary

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Leica will announce a new pocket instant camera tomorrow, the Sofort.

It will use Fuji and Leica prepackaged instant film, which will come in color and B&W.

Cost will be around $300

 

Do we "like" ????

http://petapixel.com/2016/09/13/leaked-leica-made-instant-camera-called-sofort/

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Philip,

 

As meticulous as it is, I still get dust from time to time; I just scan it again..and maybe again :).  The tray I have has clear glass on one side, frosted on the other, it was new old stock from Nikon when I got it.  I've had rings only a couple of times (on 120 only), but then again I'm new at scanning. I typically use the masks only if the negative is really curled, otherwise I just go without.  When I work with flat negatives I can gently tap the tray and get the negative to shift slightly..up/down, left/right.  When I've been able to do this I've never had rings.  I also process my scans the same, preview at a high DPI, then save the preview.  All the best my friend!

 

-Marc

 

Hi Marc

 

Thanks for describing your workflow. It is impressively meticulous. I always find it interesting to learn how other photographers work.

 

I have both the G and GR trays. As you say the GR only allows one frame but does have ANR glass and permits rotating the neg a few degrees to straighten images. I have had Newton rings also with this tray and the rotating function isn't of much use since I've devised a way to straighten 6x6 images using some nifty Photoshop-Fu involving inverse selections and black Hasselblad frames that can be applied to a straightened image. 

 

I think I tried using the masks early on but I'll give that another try to check the results. Thank you for reminding me of this.

 

The G tray which I upgraded with the Focal Point ANR glass didn't really help much with the Newton rings. The irritating thing is that such rings don't always appear so it's hit or miss, which is frustrating due to loss of time. I guess with more careful handling on my part with respect to dust I could use the G tray and only the "ordinary" glass to get a flat scan but wet mounting isn't much of a hassle actually and it allows me to scan quite fast because I preview each frame at the scan DPI (in my case always 2000 which I think is a good time-quality balance) so there is only one pass.

 

br

Philip

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Perhaps I can burden the thread with this, three photos of the same motif. Which one don't you like and why (more interesting to ask than which one you like and why :) )?

 

They differ a bit in terms of post-processing, sorry about that, but I'm more curious here about preferences regarding composition.

 

Thanks for your thoughts

 

TTL 50 Summicron (11817) Rollei Retro 80S in Diafine

The second one for me too. The "frame in the frame" does it for me.

 

Rgds

 

C.

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I'd have to say #3;  I think there's just a tad too much room in the lower portion of the frame for me.  My preference order is 2,1,3...but I think 3 would go to the top with some cropping of the lower portion of the frame.

 

Perhaps I can burden the thread with this, three photos of the same motif. Which one don't you like and why (more interesting to ask than which one you like and why :) )?

 

They differ a bit in terms of post-processing, sorry about that, but I'm more curious here about preferences regarding composition.

 

Thanks for your thoughts

 

 

TTL 50 Summicron (11817) Rollei Retro 80S in Diafine

 

29348931050_0df8392baf_b.jpg

Flickr

 

29657677476_f2bbba6ea5_b.jpg

Flickr

 

29015466433_034ec2f216_b.jpg

Flickr

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I've never seen photos from that type of film, the camera looks pretty cool.  Too bad Apple couldn't get this done

 

http://consumer.huawei.com/en/mobile-phones/p9/index.html

 

 

 

Leica will announce a new pocket instant camera tomorrow, the Sofort.

It will use Fuji and Leica prepackaged instant film, which will come in color and B&W.

Cost will be around $300

 

Do we "like" ????

http://petapixel.com/2016/09/13/leaked-leica-made-instant-camera-called-sofort/

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Leica will announce a new pocket instant camera tomorrow, the Sofort.

It will use Fuji and Leica prepackaged instant film, which will come in color and B&W.

Cost will be around $300

 

Do we "like" ????

http://petapixel.com/2016/09/13/leaked-leica-made-instant-camera-called-sofort/

Adam if it's film I am in  :)  but the principle ?  it's like old Polaroid with instant paper ?

and the price for 10 sheets in addition of 279 Euros ?

Thanks for the news and link

Best

Henry

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