Doc Henry Posted March 25, 2016 Author Share #12861 Posted March 25, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Thank you all for your comments, I didn't find the time to respond earlier. My job keeps me more than busy at the moment. These days I made some comparison scans between my Minolta Dimage Scan Dual IV and the Coolscan IV. In the end it is a tight race between the two scanners, if compared by resolution and sharpness only. But the Coolscan wins in overall handling and quality, as ICE spares a lot of time and the color output is that good that there is not much need to post process the images. I noticed, that the reds are bit to saturated, but i made a profile in LR to tweak this. Here are two examples - the image was shown here some time ago: Bild-1-6.jpg Minolta Bild-2-2.jpg Coolscan The first image shows about 30 steps in the LR Protocol (with about 20 steps in dust removal), while the second needed only 3 steps (lights restored, shadows pushed, blacks pulled) - done in merely 30 seconds. M4-P - Cron 35 - Cinestill 800 James for me the red color of the bottles seems more faithful in Dimage but the difference is very small Both scanners are good IMHO Best Henry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doc Henry Posted March 25, 2016 Author Share #12862 Posted March 25, 2016 In my opinion the black&white conversion looks best - good job! Eoin I agree with James b&w for me Rg Henry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted March 25, 2016 Author Share #12863 Posted March 25, 2016 Yes, James - I haven't figured out how to salvage the colours yet. Here are a few more B&W versions of shots from my Lomographied Ektar 100: b008 by Eoin Christie, on Flickr b001 by Eoin Christie, on Flickr b005 by Eoin Christie, on Flickr b007 by Eoin Christie, on Flickr Nice this one Eoin You are unmasked Fortunately you have your discreet M6 Henry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted March 25, 2016 Author Share #12864 Posted March 25, 2016 And to give you a break from my dodgy visual jaundice, here's some Portra 400 at dawn from my window on the World... c001 by Eoin Christie, on Flickr Nice picture and sunset Eoin Henry 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted March 25, 2016 Author Share #12865 Posted March 25, 2016 Pan F... e001 by Eoin Christie, on Flickr You are also unmasked here Eoin Well done Henry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted March 25, 2016 Share #12866 Posted March 25, 2016 I have a question After you take a picture with film, I guess you then take that roll of film to a camera shop that develops film. The bit I don't get is how do you then get them up on this forum. I see some really fantastic pictures here just would like to know how you guys do it?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsgary Posted March 25, 2016 Share #12867 Posted March 25, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have a question After you take a picture with film, I guess you then take that roll of film to a camera shop that develops film. The bit I don't get is how do you then get them up on this forum. I see some really fantastic pictures here just would like to know how you guys do it?? I only send colour film for developing all B+W is developed at home and scanned with a film scanner and uploaded to Smugmug and shots are linked to here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted March 25, 2016 Share #12868 Posted March 25, 2016 I have a question After you take a picture with film, I guess you then take that roll of film to a camera shop that develops film. The bit I don't get is how do you then get them up on this forum. I see some really fantastic pictures here just would like to know how you guys do it?? You will receive from the shop at least the developed film, i.e. the negatives. You may elect to have prints made as well. In order to show the pictures here you obviously need a digital version of the pictures to be shown. There are several possibilities: You can have your pictures scanned by the shop that develops films. The quality varies, but it's reasonably convenient. You can scan the negatives, using a scanner. You can scan the prints, using a (different kind of) scanner. You can take pictures of the negatives with a digital camera and a close-up kit. You can take pictures of the prints with a digital camera and a different close-up kit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted March 25, 2016 Share #12869 Posted March 25, 2016 I have a question After you take a picture with film, I guess you then take that roll of film to a camera shop that develops film. The bit I don't get is how do you then get them up on this forum. I see some really fantastic pictures here just would like to know how you guys do it?? Hey Neil - You need to buy a dedicated film scanner, and run the negatives through the scanner, which then generates a TIFF or RAW file, which you can then edit as you do with your digital raw files. There are lots of threads in the "Film" forum relating to various film scanners that are on the market today and are available. If you have any specific questions regarding this, don't hesitate to ask here. Adam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted March 25, 2016 Share #12870 Posted March 25, 2016 Hey Neil - You need to buy a dedicated film scanner, and run the negatives through the scanner, which then generates a TIFF or RAW file, which you can then edit as you do with your digital raw files. There are lots of threads in the "Film" forum relating to various film scanners that are on the market today and are available. If you have any specific questions regarding this, don't hesitate to ask here. Adam Cheers Adam, would a dedicated film scanner be able to generate a RAW file from both negatives and slides or should I forget about slides for now and just worry about negatives? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted March 25, 2016 Share #12871 Posted March 25, 2016 I only send colour film for developing all B+W is developed at home and scanned with a film scanner and uploaded to Smugmug and shots are linked to here You will receive from the shop at least the developed film, i.e. the negatives. You may elect to have prints made as well. In order to show the pictures here you obviously need a digital version of the pictures to be shown. There are several possibilities: You can have your pictures scanned by the shop that develops films. The quality varies, but it's reasonably convenient. You can scan the negatives, using a scanner. You can scan the prints, using a (different kind of) scanner. You can take pictures of the negatives with a digital camera and a close-up kit. You can take pictures of the prints with a digital camera and a different close-up kit. Cheers Phil...I think I will go down the scan negatives road......Let me take a look on the forum for scanner recommendations and take it from there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsgary Posted March 25, 2016 Share #12872 Posted March 25, 2016 Cheers Phil...I think I will go down the scan negatives road......Let me take a look on the forum for scanner recommendations and take it from thereI use a Plustek and Epson if you are loaded Hasselblad make them I saw one at a photo show on Monday £16,000 [emoji15] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted March 25, 2016 Share #12873 Posted March 25, 2016 Cheers Adam, would a dedicated film scanner be able to generate a RAW file from both negatives and slides or should I forget about slides for now and just worry about negatives? the scanner will be able to scan both slide (positive) and negative film. As Gary said, the best of the best for the consumer market is made by Hasselblad. If you have the budget for this, I'm not sure there is much more research you need to do. If this is not within your budget, 1. the highest end scanner from Plustek is well regarded 2. The Nikon 9000 is probably a bit better but they don't make them any more and you have to buy it used (this is what I use) 3. For a much more reasonably priced workflow, the Epsons are reasonably good. Knowing you, though, I think you'll hover around the Hassy, Plustek and Nikon in your analysis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted March 25, 2016 Share #12874 Posted March 25, 2016 I use a Plustek and Epson if you are loaded Hasselblad make them I saw one at a photo show on Monday £16,000 [emoji15] Where on the forum is the scanner section? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted March 25, 2016 Share #12875 Posted March 25, 2016 Difficult choice. The last one emphasises the bridge leading to the skyscrapers with the bridges in the background fading much more into the background. With the other shots there's more light on the background bridges, balancing the picture more. Personally 1 has my preference, as the long exposure time smoothens the water and emphasises the tranquility of the time of day, also the light on the city seems to wake it up. In both other pictures the water is more choppy, and particularly in 3 that distracts me. But then, enlarged it may be a very different impression than the one I get from my iPad. All the best wishes for the festive days, C. "Do you like any and which would be your keeper?" I like all 3, Adam, but my preference is for the first one. Very difficult to choose , prefering the 3rd one. Hi Christoph, Eoin and Jean Marc - Thanks very much for your feedback. It is very helpful to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsgary Posted March 25, 2016 Share #12876 Posted March 25, 2016 Where on the forum is the scanner section? Not sure This was scanned with a Plustek 7500 that i picked up for £12 at our club action And this was scanned with an Epson 500 that cost about £130 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsgary Posted March 25, 2016 Share #12877 Posted March 25, 2016 Few more from last weekends hunt, GW690 Foma 400 And the wife with Sandbeck Park House 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted March 25, 2016 Share #12878 Posted March 25, 2016 There is no such section but there are threads in the Film and Digital Post-processing subfora. RFF has a dedicated subforum, there a one over at largeformatforum and then there's DPUG's and I believe photo.net also has one or more dedicated to this. Luminous Landscape and possibly Fred Miranda also has subfora on this. And there are probably other sites too. And then there are the various Yahoo groups, many dedicated to specific brands/scanners but also other ones, like the Scan Hi-End. If you want to go the film scanner route to post on the internet, get for instance a current Plustek and Vuescan and follow this guide. That should give good enough results to work further from. But don't forget you can digitize the film using your digital cameras too (just google for that). br Philip Where on the forum is the scanner section? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EoinC Posted March 25, 2016 Share #12879 Posted March 25, 2016 (edited) I have a question After you take a picture with film, I guess you then take that roll of film to a camera shop that develops film. The bit I don't get is how do you then get them up on this forum. I see some really fantastic pictures here just would like to know how you guys do it?? In KL, Neil, you can also get your B&W or C41 film developed and / or scanned at Bang Bang Geng in Publika Gallery Mall. For E6, there are no longer any commercial houses doing developing, so it needs to go to Analog Film Lab in Singapore (the only remaining E6 developers). Bang Bang Geng have a Plustek 120, but generally use a Fuji Frontier for most of their scanning. I just bought some more film off them. Warning: Everyone else, look away - This is digital... a001 by Eoin Christie, on Flickr Those who ignored my warning may have picked up on something strange about this shot (other than the normal digital highlight struggle)... 19 of those films are going to really be difficult to load in my M6. Edited March 25, 2016 by EoinC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NEIL-D-WILLIAMS Posted March 25, 2016 Share #12880 Posted March 25, 2016 In KL, Neil, you can also get your B&W or C41 film developed and / or scanned at Bang Bang Geng in Publika Gallery Mall. For E6, there are no longer any commercial houses doing developing, so it needs to go to Analog Film Lab in Singapore (the only remaining E6 developers). Eoin Whats E6? I go to publika 3 times a week (Bens for food and Heally Macs for beer) so that is fine and handy. How fast is the turn around and is it better to develop and scan or just develop?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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