chrism Posted December 20, 2015 Share #8761 Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) It's rather ironic that this debate should intrude on a forum dedicated to celebrated the joy of working with a limited and imperfect medium, film. But the reasons why we like film are probably closely related to the reasons some of us prefer analog and/or tube sound. It is the fact you have to work with them, to work around limitations, to tweak and refine. If I could get "perfect sound forever" (remember that?) with a cheap CD player, and perfect photography from digital, I would probably process some plastic files from the latest Canon while listening to a CD or an MP3 on an iPod for a short while, and then I would find myself going off and doing something more interesting. I was obsessed with hifi at one time, and spent far more than I should chasing perfection. I think my best solid state amp was also French, a YBA1. CD players from Mission, Meridian, YBA and Counterpoint came and went until I settled on an Ayre. I could listen hard and try to decide which I liked the best, but there were two simple tests that were very reliable - did I rush home to play music rather than do anything else, and did it make me tap my feet? When I first got into tubes I realised that it was surpassing solid state in both respects. The addition of vinyl (with a Loricraft record cleaner - an amazing device!) was the icing on the cake. I still have the Ayre, but now it sits largely unused (it's good for SACD still) while I listen to vinyl with a Decca London Reference catridge/SME Va arm/SME 10 table/ Quad tubed electronics and Quad electrostatic speakers. I'm still obsessed, I suppose, but it's not about the equipment any more, it's about the music. And that's probably a good and healthy thing. I will agree that detail and fidelity might measure better with solid state, but for my remaining hearing, the emotional response to the authenticity - such as it is - of analog tube sound is far more satisfying. After all, when I go the the opera for live performances things aren't perfect either. I guess I'm not looking for perfection, but whatever elusive quality it is that satisfies my needs in music. As I said, pretty much the same reasons I use film. I see no reason to change either habit. Now this is an opinion, and I hope it's not BS. If this is to continue, we should move it to Barnack's Bar. Edited December 20, 2015 by chrism 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted December 20, 2015 Posted December 20, 2015 Hi chrism, Take a look here I like film...(open thread). I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Bill Livingston Posted December 20, 2015 Share #8762 Posted December 20, 2015 Nope. That isn't BS at all. That is a very good post... and much closer to my opinion (which I have been careful not to state), than you would think. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted December 20, 2015 Author Share #8763 Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) Chris , image and sound are part of our culture. That said it depends on your level requirements as for the Leica lens or camerasThe marks that you quoted Chris are well known and some are very expensive. I know the great YBA Ah mythical Quad electrostatic panels , a wonder with its Quad amplifier and preamp. tubes .... You spoke of Sacd, it's just that they are better than CDs because they are not registered such as CD,reason of the difference.The Sacd are very similar to vinyl disc and give a satisfying sound .Now it depends on your type of music.I love the voice and classical opera (Puccini, Verdi...) and solo piano , and sometimes when I hear a voice , it comes to me in the guts.... I have emotion when listen,that's so true Best Henry Edited December 20, 2015 by Doc Henry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted December 20, 2015 Author Share #8764 Posted December 20, 2015 We are talking about Verdi (19th cent.) , here a picture of Sceaux castle (17th cent.) Kodachrome 64 (dev Dwaynes US lab Kansas) M7-35 LA Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Best Henry 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Best Henry ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2952497'>More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted December 20, 2015 Author Share #8765 Posted December 20, 2015 ... and the front of the Sceaux castle Kodachrome 64 M7-35 LA Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Best Henry 8 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Best Henry ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2952501'>More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted December 20, 2015 Author Share #8766 Posted December 20, 2015 .... another view of this nice place and the "Jardins à la française" Kodachrome 64 M7- 28 Cron Asph Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Best Henry 10 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Best Henry ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2952509'>More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted December 20, 2015 Share #8767 Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) A misty late-November afternoon in the village of Avebury, Wilts. MP, Summarit 75mm, Portra 400. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited December 20, 2015 by Keith (M) 12 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2952519'>More sharing options...
chrism Posted December 20, 2015 Share #8768 Posted December 20, 2015 No more fog, but my son came home for Christmas. MP, Elmarit-M 90, one strobe, Acros 100, HC-110 (Dil.E), X1 scan: Thomas by chrism229, on Flickr 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted December 20, 2015 Share #8769 Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) No more fog, but my son came home for Christmas. MP, Elmarit-M 90, one strobe, Acros 100, HC-110 (Dil.E), X1 scan: Thomas by chrism229, on Flickr wonderful, soulful, look, Chris. Well done. You should shoot your family more (if you know what I mean ) I spent a good part of the day shooting 6cmX7cm B&W polariods of my sons as they watched NFL football with my Linhof and Zeiss lens. One gem after another.... Edited December 20, 2015 by A miller 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted December 20, 2015 Share #8770 Posted December 20, 2015 I think Bill outdid me on the painful discourse from earlier today. No amount of popcorn could have drawn me in to that (inside joke). Thank goodness it is behind us. Back to holiday activities, like shopping! NYC outside of Bloomingdales... M3, DR summicron, Fuji Provia 100F Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 7 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2952832'>More sharing options...
xalo Posted December 20, 2015 Share #8771 Posted December 20, 2015 (edited) Another quick visit - hopefully next year will be a little more controlable... Just stumbled upon this late summer pic while looking for a suitable one for a greeting card. This one would be... different. Keep it up and wish you all happy holidays! Cheers Alexander Rolleicord Va & Portra 400 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited December 20, 2015 by xalo 8 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2952839'>More sharing options...
B.Toews Posted December 20, 2015 Share #8772 Posted December 20, 2015 M4-P, Canon 50/1.4 LTM, Arista Premium 400: On the Ice by Brendan | Toews, on Flickr 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share #8773 Posted December 21, 2015 A misty late-November afternoon in the village of Avebury, Wilts. MP, Summarit 75mm, Portra 400. Very nice color Keith Best Henry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share #8774 Posted December 21, 2015 No more fog, but my son came home for Christmas. MP, Elmarit-M 90, one strobe, Acros 100, HC-110 (Dil.E), X1 scan: Thomas by chrism229, on Flickr Wonderful portrait Chris Very well framing Best Henry X1 a great scan. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share #8775 Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) Another quick visit - hopefully next year will be a little more controlable... Just stumbled upon this late summer pic while looking for a suitable one for a greeting card. This one would be... different. Keep it up and wish you all happy holidays! Cheers Alexander Rolleicord Va & Portra 400 24950007_800 ©⎡Alexander⎦_xalo (LUF).jpg You are welcome Xalo Funny picture and well done. Thanks for sharing. and also Happy Christmas Holidays Best Henry Edited December 21, 2015 by Doc Henry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share #8776 Posted December 21, 2015 M4-P, Canon 50/1.4 LTM, Arista Premium 400: On the Ice by Brendan | Toews, on Flickr Simple and beautiful picture Brendan Nice composition Best Henry 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share #8777 Posted December 21, 2015 Kodachrome 64 the last (dev Dwaynes US Lab Kansas) M7-35 LA Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Best Henry 9 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Best Henry ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2952957'>More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 21, 2015 Share #8778 Posted December 21, 2015 London by -Ric Capucho- Another handheld night shot using XP2. Ric Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share #8779 Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) London by -Ric Capucho- Another handheld night shot using XP2. Ric Ric , as you show here , no need to spend a fortune to have cameras that rise to 25,000 Isos , a folly ! Make night photos for being like day. How useful ? and this distorts a night photography that remains beautiful ... We live in a great time ! Well done Ric Thanks Best Henry Edited December 21, 2015 by Doc Henry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share #8780 Posted December 21, 2015 I tried a few Bergger 400 Plus rolls and pushed development in Ilfosol S (9mns>12mns) to have grain. Your advice ? Macro Poppy M7-90 MacroElmar Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Best Henry 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Best Henry ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2952962'>More sharing options...
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