gbealnz Posted October 29, 2015 Share #7521 Posted October 29, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) And one from an older roll, not sure if it is the Summicron 35, or the Elmarit 28, (darn EXIF data was not recorded!), but likely the 28mm. M6, and Delta 100, through Rodinal 1:50. Far easier to process following the scan, not click and post like the Doc does, but easier than the old camera. I think I posted this image when I first processed the roll, it would have been either a "printed image photographed scan", or a "neg scan using the BEOON and Fuji X-E1", I'll see if I can check. Gary Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2916777'>More sharing options...
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A miller Posted October 30, 2015 Share #7522 Posted October 30, 2015 And one from an older roll, not sure if it is the Summicron 35, or the Elmarit 28, (darn EXIF data was not recorded!), but likely the 28mm. M6, and Delta 100, through Rodinal 1:50. Far easier to process following the scan, not click and post like the Doc does, but easier than the old camera. I think I posted this image when I first processed the roll, it would have been either a "printed image photographed scan", or a "neg scan using the BEOON and Fuji X-E1", I'll see if I can check. Gary Gary - I remember the last rendition of this that you posted and I like this one MUCH better. It is much more lively. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted October 30, 2015 Share #7523 Posted October 30, 2015 (edited) Early morning, NYC E K T A R Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited October 30, 2015 by A miller 11 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2916854'>More sharing options...
Kleinkamera Posted October 30, 2015 Share #7524 Posted October 30, 2015 Black Canyon Early 1960's Elmar 50 f2.8, Portra 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miguel_m Posted October 30, 2015 Share #7525 Posted October 30, 2015 kayaker on Biggesee Leica M2 Tele-Elmarit 90mm 2.8 A cheap film from drugstore (DM) Lonely Kajak by Miguel Martins, auf Flickr 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share #7526 Posted October 30, 2015 kayaker on Biggesee Leica M2 Tele-Elmarit 90mm 2.8 A cheap film from drugstore (DM) Lonely Kajak by Miguel Martins, auf Flickr Thanks Miguel a cheap film but with nice and vivid color Best Henry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share #7527 Posted October 30, 2015 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Black Canyon Early 1960's Elmar 50 f2.8, Portra Very nice picture James many plans for perspective , well framing Best Henry Edited October 30, 2015 by Doc Henry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share #7528 Posted October 30, 2015 Early morning, NYC E K T A R Nice Adam I prefer this version for the perspective ... Thanks Best Henry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share #7529 Posted October 30, 2015 (edited) Adam very interesting opinion Thanks I acknowledge that the software of any kind are not perfect, compared to what our eyes perceive, but you know that the software was originally designed by a team that was thought to enter all parameters, which should be for this correction (just look at the list of names of the team when opening your LR).All these parameters are entered and calibrated to correct eventually the deviation from an original . On what basis ? I think from parameters from a film. Just see software like Silver Efex offering you to imitate Fuji or Kodak or Agfa, by clicking on the desired type of film . The Fuji Xpro1 or X100 camera has the choice of different Fuji films (Acros, Fuji Provia ...) as final rendering That said , automatic correction is not ideal , this is a standard setting. Only the eye can say or not if the correction has been good or correct . The scan is done to post the images on internet . As I said above, instead of standing for hours in front of his computer to correct (for people who only do digital photos) , I personally spend hours in front of my enlarger (it's exciting and interesting) and see printing his picture immediately ahead, or then do another picture if we want , for example with more contrast because it is not satisfied with the previous result. And here we are in trying to adjust the lighting of the enlarger, passing his hand over part of the negative, once or twice , to mitigate contrast or do nothing to keep an under exposure etc ... In fact , the software this time, it is us , who will do it and what a pleasure with his family or friends in selecting after the picture that we consider the best In total, all this to say that I trust about the fidelity of my eye, better if we can do when we have the opportunity to see and then I think to disabled people ... .I know a colorblind photographer (who fails to collect the red) I advised him to only do b&w or ask his wife to look color photos for him Best Henry 2 pictures to show you a work in front of its enlarger First the original picture I took at the Col des Aravis (1500m) french Alpes with my MP + Summilux 35 A. and Kodak TX400 (dev home D76) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! and the result impression on silver paper Ilford : shiny and 18x24 cms (not the same black deeper) versus picture posted in LF M8-28 Cron Asph Note : the reflection of light from my window (to take this picture) makes the photo a bit gray but is black and deep black Edited October 30, 2015 by Doc Henry 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! and the result impression on silver paper Ilford : shiny and 18x24 cms (not the same black deeper) versus picture posted in LF M8-28 Cron Asph Note : the reflection of light from my window (to take this picture) makes the photo a bit gray but is black and deep black ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2917024'>More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share #7530 Posted October 30, 2015 OK, while I am on a roll, and before I got to work, decided to try another scan from the 1A roll. The ever cheeky grand-daughter last time she visited. Into the light, sort of, tests the old lens for sure. Takes a bit to get the flat scan to how I think I want it, and boy oh boy, the dust, I really need to sort that. But the result is soft, and I like it. Gary It's fine Gary and lovely picture .... a little blurred I think it's wanted and voluntary isn't ? Thanks for sharing Best Henry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted October 30, 2015 Share #7531 Posted October 30, 2015 The scan is done to post the images on internet . Thanks, Henry. I always value your perspective. I think we each have good and credible points on this topic; and I also think that we have a genuine disagreement, which I am happy to let live on as there are many schools of thought on this and you and I seem to be each representing different schools. The photos that you post are very nice, as always. With regard to the quote that I pasted above. I actually agree with this as a general matter with regard to B&W film photos. This is not to say that a B&W film scan cannot be printed digitally with the same look and feel as a true analog silver gelatin print (at least with respect to the all but the most trained eye. For example, I just had the below photo (from Tri-X) printed on Ilford Baryta photo paper using a part automatic light jet and part manual silver gelatin process at Whitewall in Germany (I unfortunately can't find the negative and need a print for a show at the Leica store in NYC that I am planning to do on the subject of my snow blizzard people photos). The results are really indistinguishable from a couple of completely manual/analog fiber prints that I recently had made through my lab. Having said this, I much prefer an analog B&W print. Color printing of fine art photography is a different situation. I have found that it is much more complicated to get a fine art color print right in the darkroom given the lack of time that I have with the printer and the lack of patience that people have nowadays with regarding to doing test prints and taking instructions. I have done some of this but have found a digital printing workflow that I actually think is wonderful and provides a real-life rendering to my film images. I use Fujiflex high gloss paper printer on light jet printers at Whitewall. It is very expensive (something like $45 for an 8X12 or 16x9), but the colors and vibrance are represented exactly as I have made them and the paper gives that 3D look that is so great about film, and also the paper renders a nice sharp image. Of course, there is no such thing as analog printing of slide film these days; digital printers must be used. To be continued! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 7 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2917113'>More sharing options...
A miller Posted October 30, 2015 Share #7532 Posted October 30, 2015 Henry - perhaps you like this version? Taken on the same morning as the one above but about an hour earlier, just as the sky was starting to brighten up with (natural) reddish hues.. (no color correction) EKTAR Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 11 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2917115'>More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share #7533 Posted October 30, 2015 Henry - perhaps you like this version? Taken on the same morning as the one above but about an hour earlier, just as the sky was starting to brighten up with (natural) reddish hues.. (no color correction) EKTAR Yes Adam , another manner to see the perspective and space in "lenght" because of a complete black background of stone Thanks Regards Henry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share #7534 Posted October 30, 2015 (edited) Thanks, Henry. I always value your perspective. I think we each have good and credible points on this topic; and I also think that we have a genuine disagreement, which I am happy to let live on as there are many schools of thought on this and you and I seem to be each representing different schools. The photos that you post are very nice, as always. With regard to the quote that I pasted above. I actually agree with this as a general matter with regard to B&W film photos. This is not to say that a B&W film scan cannot be printed digitally with the same look and feel as a true analog silver gelatin print (at least with respect to the all but the most trained eye. For example, I just had the below photo (from Tri-X) printed on Ilford Baryta photo paper using a part automatic light jet and part manual silver gelatin process at Whitewall in Germany (I unfortunately can't find the negative and need a print for a show at the Leica store in NYC that I am planning to do on the subject of my snow blizzard people photos). The results are really indistinguishable from a couple of completely manual/analog fiber prints that I recently had made through my lab. Having said this, I much prefer an analog B&W print. Color printing of fine art photography is a different situation. I have found that it is much more complicated to get a fine art color print right in the darkroom given the lack of time that I have with the printer and the lack of patience that people have nowadays with regarding to doing test prints and taking instructions. I have done some of this but have found a digital printing workflow that I actually think is wonderful and provides a real-life rendering to my film images. I use Fujiflex high gloss paper printer on light jet printers at Whitewall. It is very expensive (something like $45 for an 8X12 or 16x9), but the colors and vibrance are represented exactly as I have made them and the paper gives that 3D look that is so great about film, and also the paper renders a nice sharp image. Of course, there is no such thing as analog printing of slide film these days; digital printers must be used. To be continued! Nice picture Adam , you posted previously in color isn't ? Interesting comment again Adam We have maybe two schools but we have the same idea. I mean the exhibition. I must soon expose in a "House of Culture" of our city some of my pictures (after 40 years of practice with Leica) I have already exposed , but this time I intend to favor b&w, rather than color, even converting color to b&w through my enlarger Why ? because I will develop myself as I wish and not depending an outside lab. At least the work will be well done according to my taste and cheaper .... appointment soon Regards Henry Edited October 30, 2015 by Doc Henry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted October 30, 2015 Share #7535 Posted October 30, 2015 Henry - the photo was taken with tri-x. For those who have the tme and permission from their spouse to take the developng and prnting in-house (which unfortunately excludes me), it is indeed the best. Now...i must leave as the sun will be rising in a few minutes... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkassenkunde Posted October 30, 2015 Share #7536 Posted October 30, 2015 ...for a show at the Leica store in NYC that I am planning to do on the subject of my snow blizzard people photos... Hi Adam, this is a very interesting information I wish you much fun and success! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted October 30, 2015 Share #7537 Posted October 30, 2015 Hi Adam, this is a very interesting information I wish you much fun and success! That's very kind, James. I really appreciate it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted October 30, 2015 Share #7538 Posted October 30, 2015 (edited) This is the same view that I shared in extreme panorama form a day or so ago. Only this time it is with a much longer lens and about a minute before sunrise. The shot is facing due east (looking at Long Island City) with the sun coming up right over the church steeple. The saturation of the Ektar is quite dramatic, I believe. I just love the reflection from the sky on the NYC rivers on a clear day... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited October 30, 2015 by A miller 9 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2917439'>More sharing options...
Sparkassenkunde Posted October 30, 2015 Share #7539 Posted October 30, 2015 (edited) This is the same view that I shared in extreme panorama form a day or so ago. Only this time it is with a much longer lens and about a minute before sunrise. The shot is facing due east (looking at Long Island City) with the sun coming up right over the church steeple. The saturation of the Ektar is quite dramatic, I believe. I just love the reflection from the sky on the NYC rivers on a clear day... Another very fine image, the color palette of blue and orange is stunning. I think I would have stamped away the few lights in the silhouette, as they are a bit distracting. Edited October 30, 2015 by Sparkassenkunde 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A miller Posted October 30, 2015 Share #7540 Posted October 30, 2015 Another very fine image, the color palette of blue and orange is stunning. I think I would have stamped away the few lights in the silhouette, as they are a bit distracting. Good of you to notice and to make the remark, James. I sincerely appreciate it. I have cloned them like like dust and replaced the file in my original post. Thanks again and all the best, Adam 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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