Ellie Posted July 14, 2015 Share #5781 Posted July 14, 2015 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) That is very interesting Ellie. I don't know Lightroom but in Photoshop one can adjust colour balance for highlights, midtones and shadows. The clouds should be the highlights. Could it be that the slider is for the midtones or shadows? Just an idea. On my (bad) office screen the first one looks cool (with blue and slight green tint) and the second one looks too yellow (but more natural). I'll have a look again when I'm at home. Indoors shooting with light sources of different colour temperature is, to be blunt, hell. I remember one photographer who recommended that for natural photography indoors the best is to eliminate all but one of the light sources. So for instance when shooting (flash-less) portraits in a room lit by both light from the windows and from lamps one is better off to close the curtains to prevent bizarre results which are difficult to correct in post (and use a reflector or two to control the light). But there are of course practical limits to how possible it is to do this, for instance in a church. Yes I have separate adjustment for highlights and shadows. I changed the photo again below, it looks better. Adjustment 100% for highlights, color slider at 100 (between yellow and green), saturation +10. The magenta slider I used before was global. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M7 Summicron-M 50/2 Fujifilm Superia 200 Edited July 14, 2015 by Ellie 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M7 Summicron-M 50/2 Fujifilm Superia 200 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2853880'>More sharing options...
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jrbelmuda Posted July 14, 2015 Share #5782 Posted July 14, 2015 Thanks for your help, I really appreciate it. It's strange because your version looks like in my LR. Zooming in on the clouds and move the red/magenta slider doesn't affect the color - there's no magenta in the clouds! I wonder where this color is added? LR export or the forum? Here's the original scanned file. I hope you'll have some nice summer days in Sweden On my colour corrected screen it seems to be in the clouds already on the original scanned file. I think Philips version is quite good based on how he achieved it. Love the photo and still think the second version is the one... Lovely capture Ellie. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrbelmuda Posted July 14, 2015 Share #5783 Posted July 14, 2015 I just finish to scan wedding pictures on Coolscan 5000 with my 3 rolls of Kodak Portra. I would like to have your opinion about these 2 pictures inside the church. Light is yellow and sometimes difficult to shoot because bad light condition. I have 2 flash Leica and Metz but I don't like to use them because as I said to Philip, I like "nature" photos and for another reason not disturbing the ceremony. In addition, people keep natural physionomy and don't know I shoot them Here are 2 pictures : white balance (WB) corrected and not corrected Which you prefer ? Kodak Portra 400 > 800 Leica M7 Summilux 35 Asph WB corrected Image11audreyeteglavizk400m7lfht+++-3bb850-50.jpg "Nature" Image11audreyeteglavizk400m7ht+++-2-850-50.jpg Thanks Best Henry I prefer the corrected photo but it is too cool but the dress is green and skin tones are off too. The second photo is too yellow and the skin tones are incorrect. I think it is important to have a calibrated screen when trying to achieve correct WB. Just my 2c's worth. All the best, John 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrbelmuda Posted July 14, 2015 Share #5784 Posted July 14, 2015 Even the bathroom sink…. M7, Trix400, 50f2 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2853910'>More sharing options...
jrbelmuda Posted July 14, 2015 Share #5785 Posted July 14, 2015 Out of water .. M7, Adox Silvermax, 50f2 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 7 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2853911'>More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted July 14, 2015 Author Share #5786 Posted July 14, 2015 (edited) Ellie , Philip and John , thanks for your precious comment ! I am between corrected and not corrected .I think in this condition I'll convert in b&w like here in "beaux arts" style as in "old time" ... the married love the retro style ! "You like it or you do not like" Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! or quite simply converted in b&w The ring on the finger , the great moment ! Which you prefer ? Kodak Portra 400 > SE 2 Leica M7 Summilux 35 Asph Best Henry Edited July 14, 2015 by Doc Henry 7 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! or quite simply converted in b&w The ring on the finger , the great moment ! Which you prefer ? Kodak Portra 400 > SE 2 Leica M7 Summilux 35 Asph Best Henry ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2853912'>More sharing options...
jrbelmuda Posted July 14, 2015 Share #5787 Posted July 14, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Ellie , Philip and John , thanks for your precious comment ! I am between corrected and not corrected .I think in this condition I'll convert in b&w like here in "beaux arts" style as in "old time" ... the married love the retro style ! "You like it or you do not like" Image21wedaudetk400m7ht++-beauxarts-4-900-50ct.jpg Converted in b&w Image21wedaudetk400m7lfht+++-mod900-50.jpg The ring on the finger , the great moment ! Which you prefer ? Kodak Portra 400 > SE 2 Leica M7 Summilux 35 Asph Best Henry I must admit to loving black and white….. Lovely look on the brides face. Very nice photo Henry ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted July 14, 2015 Share #5788 Posted July 14, 2015 A very nice moment that you caught on film there, Henry. The first one is my favourite. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted July 14, 2015 Share #5789 Posted July 14, 2015 These are both very nice John. Excellent tones and detail. Even the bathroom sink…. M7, Trix400, 50f2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted July 14, 2015 Share #5790 Posted July 14, 2015 Here's a gentleman I came across during one of my walks. Flickr TTL 50/1.4 Asph Velvia 100 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted July 14, 2015 Author Share #5791 Posted July 14, 2015 I prefer the corrected photo but it is too cool but the dress is green and skin tones are off too. The second photo is too yellow and the skin tones are incorrect. I think it is important to have a calibrated screen when trying to achieve correct WB. Just my 2c's worth. All the best, John John ,you are right for color. I have a same remark like you I have a calibrated screen Eizo. Best Henry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted July 14, 2015 Author Share #5792 Posted July 14, 2015 Here's a gentleman I came across during one of my walks. Flickr TTL 50/1.4 Asph Velvia 100 Philip it's a stunning portrait . Well done Best Henry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted July 14, 2015 Author Share #5793 Posted July 14, 2015 (edited) I just finish to scan wedding pictures on Coolscan 5000 with my 3 rolls of Kodak Portra. I would like to have your opinion about these 2 pictures inside the church. Light is yellow and sometimes difficult to shoot because bad light condition. I have 2 flash Leica and Metz but I don't like to use them because as I said to Philip, I like "nature" photos and for another reason not disturbing the ceremony. In addition, people keep natural physionomy and don't know I shoot them Here are 2 pictures : white balance (WB) corrected and not corrected Which you prefer ? Kodak Portra 400 > 800 Leica M7 Summilux 35 Asph WB corrected Image11audreyeteglavizk400m7lfht+++-3bb850-50.jpg "Nature" Image11audreyeteglavizk400m7ht+++-2-850-50.jpg Thanks Best Henry This time I shot with the MP (I have 2 cameras in my bag) and 28 Summicron asph with Kodak TX400 I converted directly in "Beaux Arts" style Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! original TX400 The tattooing of the bride is a "Celtic" word Leica MP Kodak TX400 Summicron 28 Asph I remind you I don't use flash Best Henry PS : It's a markage error on the photo. I made a mistake I should have put "mp" Edited July 14, 2015 by Doc Henry 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! original TX400 The tattooing of the bride is a "Celtic" word Leica MP Kodak TX400 Summicron 28 Asph I remind you I don't use flash Best Henry PS : It's a markage error on the photo. I made a mistake I should have put "mp" ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2853947'>More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted July 14, 2015 Author Share #5794 Posted July 14, 2015 Out of water .. M7, Adox Silvermax, 50f2 Very nice picture with beautiful grain Best Henry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted July 14, 2015 Author Share #5795 Posted July 14, 2015 Old Hardwick Hall http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/visit/places/hardwick-old-hall/ Gary , I forget this one , very nice Best Henry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellie Posted July 14, 2015 Share #5796 Posted July 14, 2015 Picturesque? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M7 Summicron-M 50/2 Fujifilm Superia 200 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M7 Summicron-M 50/2 Fujifilm Superia 200 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2854025'>More sharing options...
Doc Henry Posted July 14, 2015 Author Share #5797 Posted July 14, 2015 Picturesque? 20150711-04.jpg M7 Summicron-M 50/2 Fujifilm Superia 200 ... yes Ellie , very nice color no comparison .... Best Henry 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlindstrom Posted July 14, 2015 Share #5798 Posted July 14, 2015 It was only bad bit was being bitten to death by mosquitos in Finland (Lapland) Wrong timing :-) Lapland is mosquito free until end of june usually and then again from early to mid august onwards. Though at those times you're already risking for night frost and occational snow! July to mid august is usually the warmest time of the summer and quite nice, but then you get the mozzies. So it's a case of picking your poison. Some years in Kilpisjärvi they get snowfall every month of the year. That's why we have the saying in here that Finnish summer is short and usually quite low on snow! :-D //Juha 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsgary Posted July 14, 2015 Share #5799 Posted July 14, 2015 Wrong timing :-) Lapland is mosquito free until end of june usually and then again from early to mid august onwards. Though at those times you're already risking for night frost and occational snow! July to mid august is usually the warmest time of the summer and quite nice, but then you get the mozzies. So it's a case of picking your poison. Some years in Kilpisjärvi they get snowfall every month of the year. That's why we have the saying in here that Finnish summer is short and usually quite low on snow! :-D //Juha We were there towards the end of June 2005 heading to Nordcap for the summer solstice Sweden and Finland were hot Top of Norway was very wet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted July 14, 2015 Share #5800 Posted July 14, 2015 I like your last edit, Ellie, and think you managed to maintain the summery nuances that a scene like this has. I didn't manage to do that in this version, unfortunately. But I think it looks better than my previous edit because it is less washed out/more punchy and somewhat less green overall. Incidentally we shouldn't forget that how web browsers display photos is a big part of our perception, in addition to whether screens are calibrated overall. This time I tried curves in Lab which is very similar to the colour balance tool except that it's entirely step less (being curves) and not limited to the rather rough divisions into shadows, midtones and highlights which colour balance uses. But I fear my skills are reaching their limits (I need to re-read Margolis's book, methinks). I like the blues in this version and think the whites in the clouds look better. A tricky thing with the clouds is that the big clouds also contain some of the darker purplish nuances that the far-away clouds have, but enhancing/keeping those risks bleeding in magenta into the white of the big clouds because of where the nuances are on the curve. There's sadly a slight cool or possibly over-green saturation to the greens in the field which I struggled to counteract. I'm sure someone with a keener eye and better adjustment skills than I can fix it perfectly. In any event it is a really lovely photograph whichever colour balance it has. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/205842-i-like-filmopen-thread/?do=findComment&comment=2854224'>More sharing options...
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