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Hi Henry - thanks for all the kind and thoughtful comments on this thread.  I have a question about this photo.  It seems about a stop to a stop and half underexposed to me given the overall scene.  Reason is that, while the sky looks beautiful and very well exposed, the people are underexposed and thus hidden from the scene.  Can I suggest that you try to increase your exposure of these types of shots by a good stop and maybe even a stop and a half?  The sky may not stay as perect, but you will retain a lot of detail in the sky and open up the foreground a great deal.  The scanner should give you a file that will avoid blown highlights anywhere in the image (even though given the exposure you used the skie would be blown out with any digital camera) and allow you to introduce the highlights as you wish all while preserving the shadow detail as well (like having your cake and eating it too).

 

As an example, on a perfectly sunny day for a shot like this, with 800 ISO I would shoot it at 1/1000 at f8 (maybe even f6.7 depending on the color of the people's skin and their clothing).  How does this compare to how you shot it?  It seems like you may have used your in camera meter which picked up the highlights in the sky and decreased the exposure, which is why I HATE in camera meters!  I could be wrong about this, and would be interested in your thoughts.

Thank you Adam for a very interesting comment.

If I remember correctly, I was at 1/500 may be 1/1000 on my MP (here was much sun that day, the wind too), and the diaphragm must be  at f:8 may be a bit more

I have not corrected this picture (like any other for that matter).

We see the face of the girl at the center and I was in "contre-jour" against the light, the sun was in front of me , because I want the relief and also see the faces of the three ladies.

In digital I can not have faces like this, because the measurement of the digital exposure tends to close (if I put in Auto mode) and faces are underexposed.

The next time I'll get out my Gossen Lunasix and check to see forward, :)  but thank you for the suggestion

Cheers

Henry

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Thank you Adam for a very interesting comment.

If I remember correctly, I was at 1/500 may be 1/1000 on my MP (here was much sun that day, the wind too), and the diaphragm must be  at f:8 may be a bit more

I have not corrected this picture (like any other for that matter).

We see the face of the girl at the center and I was in "contre-jour" against the light, the sun was in front of me , because I want the relief and also see the faces of the three ladies.

In digital I can not have faces like this, because the measurement of the digital exposure tends to close (if I put in Auto mode) and faces are underexposed.

The next time I'll get out my Gossen Lunasix and check to see forward, :)  but thank you for the suggestion

Cheers

Henry

Based on the very low ISO you used, I would have opened up another stop (if you shot at 1/500) or two (if you shot at 1/1000).  You can see that you quickly lose either speed of shutter or DOF by increasing the exposure like this, which is why a much higher ISO is recommended with this type of seen, as well as a wide lens to ensure a good DOF.

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Thanks Adam for your advice :)I'll try next time to open a stop or two stop, the next time I return to the Louvre Museum.

 

Here is a picture with 2 parts of a left and a right of our cathedral ceiling to show the dynamic of the film (here Kodak Portra) that is superior to digital !
 

The light comes from the left (3 or 4 windows) of the photo and illuminates a part of the ceiling, and no light on the right (because the ceiling is less high than the left and no window) or a little reflected light , you will  notice the detail of the bricks of the right half of the ceiling with color.
I have other examples I'll show you !

One more thing, this photo (as all other)is uncorrected. It's raw scan (calibrated RGB on the scanner). I do not correct because it is

as I saw when I took the picture.

 

Your opinion ?

 

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Kodak Portra 400

Leica MP

Summilux 35 Asph

the lens is really adapted to MP

accurate lens

 

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Henry

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and this another ceiling picture taken at another moment of our cathedral always in half dark 

 

KP 400

MP 35LA

 

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Thanks Adam for your advice :)I'll try next time to open a stop or two stop, the next time I return to the Louvre Museum.

 

Here is a picture with 2 parts of a left and a right of our cathedral ceiling to show the dynamic of the film (here Kodak Portra) that is superior to digital !

 

The light comes from the left (3 or 4 windows) of the photo and illuminates a part of the ceiling, and no light on the right (because the ceiling is less high than the left and no window) or a little reflected light , you will  notice the detail of the bricks of the right half of the ceiling with color.

I have other examples I'll show you !

 

One more thing, this photo (as all other)is uncorrected. It's raw scan (calibrated RGB on the scanner). I do not correct because it is

as I saw when I took the picture.

 

Your opinion ?

 

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Kodak Portra 400

Leica MP

Summilux 35 Asph

the lens is really adapted to MP

accurate lens

 

Best

Henry

Like it a lot.  Nice depth and tones.  The shadows could be opened a little, but I think this is a matter of personal taste.

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Good to see you back Henry. I really prefer the B&W version.

 

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(Both Portra 400,M6,CV 35/f1.4)

Thanks Maxip for your message

My mother was hospitalized and I went down in the south in emergency.

She's better now.

.... and thanks for a comment about the picture.Yes I agree b&w is better

 

I like the portrait (of your second picture) in color that highlights facial details with a light background of sky

(dynamic of the film)

 

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Henry

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I love film - if only because of the colors

 

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LEICA MP / 400er Farbnegativfilm / 50er Summarit ( 10 sek. )

 

Very nice picture with beautiful reflections :)

Nice framing

Thanks MBI for posting

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Henry

What is "Farbnegativfilm" ?

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another proof about dynamic of film

 

All the colors and details are preserved on this photo of Cherry blossom

in contre jour (or against the light)

black dots above flowers are bees :)

 

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Apo Summicron 90 Asph

MP

Kodak Portra 400

Not corrected

 

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Henry

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...  a painting on a wall  :)

Nice blue color IMHO

(sun coming from left)

 

Kodak Portra 400

Leica MP

Summilux 35 asph

 

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James wow wonderful treasure !

Don't forget to share with us :)

Good photos

Best

Henry

 

I will share my pictures with you, but it will take some time. I hope to find the time to go out and take some pics soon, but I´m quite busy at work lately. 

 

Today there comes a sad elephant for you.

 

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M4-P - Cron 50 DR - Agfa 100 CT Precisa (slidefilm) - converted in SEP2

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I will share my pictures with you, but it will take some time. I hope to find the time to go out and take some pics soon, but I´m quite busy at work lately. 

 

Today there comes a sad elephant for you.

 

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M4-P - Cron 50 DR - Agfa 100 CT Precisa (slidefilm) - converted in SEP2

James thanks for posting. Very nice tonality

You are right , his place is in nature among other elephants :angry:

 

For pictures you post photos as you want James

We understand , don't worry

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Henry

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Two in color (Fujifilm Superia 200). The colors are natural, but they are a bit different from my M9.

 

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M7 Summarit-M 50/2.5 Fujifilm Superia 200

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Two in color (Fujifilm Superia 200). The colors are natural, but they are a bit different from my M9.

 

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M7 Summarit-M 50/2.5 Fujifilm Superia 200

Ellie thanks for posting

I like this color very nice general rendering

I have also a M9 and M8 and you're right about the difference

... and for my pictures I don't need to correct with LR

Best

Henry

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