shard Posted March 25, 2013 Share #61 Posted March 25, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Sandisk Extreme 128GB 45MB/s - Yes I know it is overkill but I really wanted to know if the M supported the newer cards since my old M9 capped out at 32GB. Has that changed? Version 1.1.0.2 firmware - Came installed Formatted SD card in camera From startup, I will hold down the shutter button - 1.5 seconds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted March 25, 2013 Posted March 25, 2013 Hi shard, Take a look here M240 SD Cards and Associated Camera Function Speeds. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
chris_tribble Posted March 25, 2013 Share #62 Posted March 25, 2013 What I am still searching for is the 0.5 second wake (with no LV) but my cards are nowhere near this speed. However things are definitely faster after formatting with SDFormater Live View (or Advanced Metering) definitely slow down start up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted March 25, 2013 Author Share #63 Posted March 25, 2013 Live View (or Advanced Metering) definitely slow down start up. Understand Chris, and I have both of those things turned off, but I'm still nowhere near 0.5 seconds. The fastest time I've been able to "wake" the camera is 2.5 seconds, which when something is happening in front of you is an eternity. For now I just have to keep the camera from going to sleep, but this is not an ideal solution. Oh well, all part of being a beta tester Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted March 25, 2013 Share #64 Posted March 25, 2013 For now I just have to keep the camera from going to sleep, but this is not an ideal solution. Oh well, all part of being a beta tester That seems to be about the only answer for now which makes having an extra battery or two even more important than last week. I am not going to download some formatter as my continuous is pretty good at around 12-14 shots and to me that could be more important than wakeup if I decide just to leave it on all the time. I will breath easier once I get a backup battery. So the older Sandisk 30MB/sec SD cards that I have PLENTY of seem to be OK as they can write up to 14 shots from the buffer. For a few seconds I do not feel like getting another 10 SD cards just because I have the M. Is this thinking good or bad. I know horses for courses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted March 25, 2013 Share #65 Posted March 25, 2013 Understand Chris, and I have both of those things turned off, but I'm still nowhere near 0.5 seconds. The fastest time I've been able to "wake" the camera is 2.5 seconds 0.5 secs was an estimate ..... and wishfull thinking ......my measured speeds are about half a second quicker than full off..... but still much quicker than 2.5 secs. I suppose all that matters is you can take a photo by the time you have got the camera to your eye .... so 1-2 seconds should be fine whatever you use. Battery drains at approx 5% per hour if left on continuously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted March 25, 2013 Share #66 Posted March 25, 2013 That seems to be about the only answer for now which makes having an extra battery or two even more important than last week. I am not going to download some formatter as my continuous is pretty good at around 12-14 shots and to me that could be more important than wakeup if I decide just to leave it on all the time. I will breath easier once I get a backup battery. So the older Sandisk 30MB/sec SD cards that I have PLENTY of seem to be OK as they can write up to 14 shots from the buffer. For a few seconds I do not feel like getting another 10 SD cards just because I have the M. Is this thinking good or bad. I know horses for courses. It looks like you are fine with your old cards for now. I would wait with buying lots of new cards until a clear card winner has emerged. Getting the formatter and taking the risk of formatting one card and see what happens is probably worth doing. Good luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted March 25, 2013 Share #67 Posted March 25, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) For now I just have to keep the camera from going to sleep, but this is not an ideal solution. Oh well, all part of being a beta tester Hi Stephen If this is the worst gotcha that the M can throw up, then waiting for a fix by turning off auto sleep at important times isn't so bad. Not to suggest for a second that it isn't important. Threads like this are really useful for everyone (including Leica I suspect). Obviously it needs fixing, but it seems likely that it will at least be greatly improved. all the best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darylgo Posted March 25, 2013 Share #68 Posted March 25, 2013 Great question.I am wondering whether this formatter also makes a difference for the M9, M9-P, MM, M-E? Formatter increased speed of my cards in the M9, faster than PC format (maybe .5 sec), and much faster (several seconds) than M9 (overwrite) using the 7 frames, 1/4000, uncompressed method. Thank you Pico! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted March 26, 2013 Author Share #69 Posted March 26, 2013 Hi StephenIf this is the worst gotcha that the M can throw up, then waiting for a fix by turning off auto sleep at important times isn't so bad. Not to suggest for a second that it isn't important. Threads like this are really useful for everyone (including Leica I suspect). Obviously it needs fixing, but it seems likely that it will at least be greatly improved. all the best I absolutely agree Jono that this is a minor issue which for now can be worked around, and I am sure Leica will come up with a solution shortly. Cheers, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted March 26, 2013 Share #70 Posted March 26, 2013 For what it’s worth, I am getting startup times from 1.85 to 2.00 seconds with a freshly formatted SanDisk Extreme Pro 95 MB/s. Classic metering, no live view. A quick re-format with the SDFormatter didn’t make a difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted March 26, 2013 Author Share #71 Posted March 26, 2013 Michael, could you please test your time to wake from sleep mode without Live View and classic metering (i.e. shutter closed)? Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted March 26, 2013 Share #72 Posted March 26, 2013 mjh- Is that about the fastest card you have come across of late? 32GB 95 MB/s Extreme Pro $63.95 Adorama with Free US shipping. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted March 26, 2013 Share #73 Posted March 26, 2013 Wake from sleep time appears to be the same. And yes, that Extreme Pro is the fastest card I have come across in recent times, but then I haven’t done any exhaustive tests. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted March 26, 2013 Author Share #74 Posted March 26, 2013 I find this very hard to believe .... I have tried both Eye-Fi 16gb and Sandisk Extreme 16gb (both class 10) From full off < 1sec From standby < 0.5 secs If fact unless I pre-focus I could not focus fast enough to take a photo before the shutter is usable. Which Firmware are you using ....... ???? I never upgraded to the latest....... .... tinkering with software/firmware often de-optimises the coding.... This is still our speed leader, and that 0.5 sec wake from sleep mode seems to be harder to find than the Easter Bunny. Knocking two seconds off the wake time would be a huge benefit to me, so I am hoping we can figure out if it is as simple as using these specific cards, or possibly something with the latest firmware upgrade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted March 26, 2013 Share #75 Posted March 26, 2013 This is still our speed leader, and that 0.5 sec wake from sleep mode seems to be harder to find than the Easter Bunny. Knocking two seconds off the wake time would be a huge benefit to me, so I am hoping we can figure out if it is as simple as using these specific cards, or possibly something with the latest firmware upgrade. Well, sort off yes. http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/2356645-post65.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted March 27, 2013 Share #76 Posted March 27, 2013 For what it’s worth, I am getting startup times from 1.85 to 2.00 seconds with a freshly formatted SanDisk Extreme Pro 95 MB/s. Classic metering, no live view. A quick re-format with the SDFormatter didn’t make a difference. Hi Michael I'm also using SanDisk Extreme Pro 95s 32Gb and I'm not getting better than 4 seconds. formatting made no difference. this is on 2 bodies. confusing! I'm using compressed DNG +fine jpg (for ipad use on the current trip). What could be making the difference? all the best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted March 27, 2013 Share #77 Posted March 27, 2013 What could be making the difference [/Quote] So far everyone has made comparisons of various read/write speeds as if the cards were the cause. That might be one factor. Let me interject that the issue might be the hardware-software of the M240 that makes a difference. We do not know how Leica may have changed such. It is invisible to us. That is only one factor. The other is how we choose and then treat SD* cards. So many variables. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted March 27, 2013 Share #78 Posted March 27, 2013 Hi MichaelI'm also using SanDisk Extreme Pro 95s 32Gb and I'm not getting better than 4 seconds. formatting made no difference. this is on 2 bodies. confusing! I'm using compressed DNG +fine jpg (for ipad use on the current trip). What could be making the difference? all the best Hi Jono, I would try Classic metering, no live view and then these cases: DNG compressed DNG compressed + fine jpg DNG uncompressed DNG uncompressed + fine jpg If these parameter changes aren't successful I would play with others having to do with initialization and processing. Card size may have an effect as well. Also, whether the card is empty or partially filled. As a beta tester I would also ask Leica about this issue. Are there hardware differences between different production Ms? Good luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted March 27, 2013 Share #79 Posted March 27, 2013 Hi Jono, I would try Classic metering, no live view and then these cases: DNG compressed DNG compressed + fine jpg DNG uncompressed DNG uncompressed + fine jpg If these parameter changes aren't successful I would play with others having to do with initialization and processing. Card size may have an effect as well. Also, whether the card is empty or partially filled. As a beta tester I would also ask Leica about this issue. Are there hardware differences between different production Ms? Good luck. hI There Of Course - I've tried these things, and it makes no obvious difference - but I've tried using a proper timer, and the timings are coming out at around 3.5 seconds. Freshly formatted cards with no images in all cases, file type appears to make no difference. Of course I've also talked to Leica about this. The answer to your last question is that I don't know either! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted March 27, 2013 Share #80 Posted March 27, 2013 Hi Jono, Many thanks. Startup or waking up was one issue. The other was, how many images can be shot before the M slows down. There these parameters might make a difference. They certainly did on the M9. DNG compressed DNG compressed + fine jpg DNG uncompressed DNG uncompressed + fine jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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