andyedward Posted January 28, 2013 Share #1 Posted January 28, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Has anyone taken delivery of a Jobo CPP-3 yet? The UK distributor expects them by 31/1, but after a couple of delays already, I'll wait until that date passes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 28, 2013 Posted January 28, 2013 Hi andyedward, Take a look here Jobo CPP-3: any deliveries yet?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
CalArts 99 Posted January 28, 2013 Share #2 Posted January 28, 2013 Middle of March for the US. It's a bit pricey and one needs to be sure to do the volume that will make it worthwhile. I'd be using it for processing only (no print developing) and at 5 USD per 35mm roll and 2.50 USD per sheet of film (for C41 locally here) I'd have to be sure to do enough (in addition to my time and also chemistry costs and inconvenience of handling color chemistry, etc..) But it is tempting, I'll admit.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted January 30, 2013 Share #3 Posted January 30, 2013 Middle of March for the US. It's a bit pricey and one needs to be sure to do the volume that will make it worthwhile. I'd be using it for processing only (no print developing) and at 5 USD per 35mm roll and 2.50 USD per sheet of film (for C41 locally here) I'd have to be sure to do enough (in addition to my time and also chemistry costs and inconvenience of handling color chemistry, etc..) But it is tempting, I'll admit.... I acquired a JOBO Autolab 1500 some years ago. At the time I was processing 7 rolls of 35mmm or 5 rolls of 120/220 per batch. Brilliant consistency, both col and BW. Trust me (I'm a photographer ) colour is every bit as easy as BW. Start with a Tetenal pack from B&H. Measure out the the required chem vol for however many films you want and push the button. Done. Current context. Since digital, my darkroom was 'locked up' for several years. Now, I am re-visiting film and processing only single rolls of whatever for my own pleasure. The JOBO is still worth it. It save return trips to the lab (and speeding fines that I used to get ) and road accidents. It gives a BETTER quality process than any lab I can find and I have a beer or coffee while it processes. It doesn't come much better. A temperature controlled input is a great asset and speeds the warm up process considerably, but is not essential. Go for it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalArts 99 Posted January 30, 2013 Share #4 Posted January 30, 2013 I acquired a JOBO Autolab 1500 some years ago. At the time I was processing 7 rolls of 35mmm or 5 rolls of 120/220 per batch. Brilliant consistency, both col and BW. Trust me (I'm a photographer ) colour is every bit as easy as BW. Start with a Tetenal pack from B&H. Measure out the the required chem vol for however many films you want and push the button. Done. Current context. Since digital, my darkroom was 'locked up' for several years. Now, I am re-visiting film and processing only single rolls of whatever for my own pleasure. The JOBO is still worth it. It save return trips to the lab (and speeding fines that I used to get ) and road accidents. It gives a BETTER quality process than any lab I can find and I have a beer or coffee while it processes. It doesn't come much better. A temperature controlled input is a great asset and speeds the warm up process considerably, but is not essential. Go for it! For me it's not about any fear or unknowns of processing color film. I worked in a lab using a Refrema dip and dunk (rack and tank) for both E6 and C41 while I was in grad school. My questioning of having the new Jobo at home is the reality of making back the initial cost (it's being advertised here for close to 3k USD), since I don't burn through a lot of film (I do around 1-2 projects a year which keeps me busy enough.) And also there's my own time spent processing film. Right now I get same day processing (and with a Refrema) and it's not that expensive here. And it's just a short 10 min drive from the house, too. So that's the issue for me: initial investment and personal time. Thinking it through, I now realize that I'd rather have the lab do it and spend my time elsewhere. But I'm certainly glad Jobo is marketing a new processor these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyedward Posted January 30, 2013 Author Share #5 Posted January 30, 2013 My interest in the new Jobo comes from wanting consistent developing results. I switched to film around 4 months ago, but will wait until I have a Jobo to develop my first film. I want to do the whole shooting-to-enlargement process myself, which was one of the draws of using film. Unfortunately, I dont get much time to shoot, but will be kept busy in the dark evenings developing the 60-70 rolls I've shot so far. The new Jobo is expensive, but this is a secondary consideration to the benefits I'm sure it will bring me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotohuis Posted January 30, 2013 Share #6 Posted January 30, 2013 For color C41/E6 YES. For B&W there are other and even maybe better options: http://www.fotohuisrovo.nl/documentatie/TAS_Flyer_D.pdf 1/3rd of the price of a Jobo CPP-3 processor. Best regards, Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickdando Posted January 30, 2013 Share #7 Posted January 30, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) The TAS Film Processor is also available from RH Designs in the UK. TAS Film Processor Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpattison Posted January 30, 2013 Share #8 Posted January 30, 2013 Andy, you will still have to stand over it and empty, fill and change wash cycles etc. 70 films at say 6 a pop you will get tired! I bought a used Jobo Autolab ATL 2200, (which can take expert drums for 5x4 up to 10x8, I did shoot that size but now only 5x4) and it manages the sequence beautifully, pinging when finished. I just fit the next preloaded 35mm tank and hit run again, it starts again, until I have exhausted the chemicals, then fill them up again, and carry on! Cost me £800 about six years ago, you should also look at a used ATL1500 as said earlier. Cheers, John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalArts 99 Posted January 30, 2013 Share #9 Posted January 30, 2013 That TAS film processor looks kind of cool. Thanks for the info. I use a Jobo 2520 MultiTank 2 with the 2509n 4X5 reel and Jobo loader to process B+W sheet film. The reel holds 6 sheets of 4x5 film and you process via hand inversion just like doing 35mm/120 B+W film. That TAS processor could mean more consistency (and pretty much hands-free to a certain degree.) With B+W film I'll spend the time and effort to process myself. Not only is B+W too expensive commercially but there are of course just too many variables with B+W (different affects from different developers, agitation, time, etc..) But since C-41 and E6 is 'standardized' for all the film flavors (expect of course for any push/pull) it's very rare not to get excellent and consistent results providing the lab is good and properly monitors their processors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KM-25 Posted January 31, 2013 Share #10 Posted January 31, 2013 It is tempting but for less than half the price you can get a good used later serial number CPP2 that pretty much does the same thing. I have the CPP2 and like the individual input knobs versus menu diving one will have to do with the new CPP3 in order to make adjustments on the fly like drum RPM, temp, etc. The built in process timer is nice too but I simply use my RH Designs Processmaster-II for that. I hope they sell though, if people rave about them, I might reconsider... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyedward Posted January 31, 2013 Author Share #11 Posted January 31, 2013 The UK distributors website previously mentioned the cpp3 would be available from today (31/1), but is now delayed until 28/2. No surprise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPerson Posted January 31, 2013 Share #12 Posted January 31, 2013 The CPP3 is a tad expensive when you can get a used previous version for a lot less or even an ATL-1000 or ATL-1500. I had a CPE2 and it is a fag if you have a lot of films. Last year I got an ATL-1500 and love it, load, program, switch on and walk away. There is a Jobo ATL-1000 on EBay at the mo. Spares are still around for them and also servicing/repair from Klaus in Germany. He is a mine of info/help on the Jobo gear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpattison Posted January 31, 2013 Share #13 Posted January 31, 2013 Maybe there will be a demo one at Focus this year FOCUS ON IMAGING 2013 I'm going on the Sunday. John PS: here's an "unused" ATL-1000 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JOBO-ATL-1000-Automatic-Film-Processor-/321058187250?pt=UK_Photography_DarkroomSupplies_SM&hash=item4ac08f27f2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotohuis Posted February 2, 2013 Share #14 Posted February 2, 2013 Apart from the TAS I am using a Jobo CPA-2 with elevator. I did a revision of the pump motor and a new elevator a few years ago and a new 2523 drum with some reels.Also all last modifications ("easy rollers" etc). Total price Eur. 300,- because the unit itself was for a bottle of wine. Together with a lot of paper (40x50cm) drums too. And yes, of course 10x cheaper then a new unit which is all with second hand darkroom stuff in Holland. But you have to know how to change spare parts and how to do maintenance on such a unit. And the CPE/CPA/CPP are relatively very easy in design/maintenance. If a big ATL is broken it can be very complicated. Pump motor change plus rotor, plastic moulding. And for extra service here is an overview for the volume of the Jobo drums in rotary and inverse processing: Best regards, Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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