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I can't answer for the X2, but assuming it's not very far from the X1, the following might have some relevance : I was doing long exposures one night with the X1, and targeted the sky once, just for fun - to see what the result looks like. I'm suspecting the white from the lower right corner is a nearby street light.

 

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Thanks for posting the photo. It's lovely. It looks like the X1 does OK, but I think I'll need to save up pennies for a digital M to get the kind of photo's I'm after digitally. I already have the fast lenses I need. I'm just gonna have to sell something first.

 

Here's a film rendition from an M6 TTL with Noctilux and TMZ.

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David,

 

Thanks for the tips, but longer exposures and stacking only really work for guided astrophotography. For including both stars and landscape, exposure times are limited if one wishes to avoid stars that look like hotdogs. High ISO and large aperture are one's best friends.

 

I knew this when I asked my question. I know I'm probably nuts, but recently I tried my DMR at star photos and was encouraged that it seemed to be better at recording stars than it should have been (at ISO 800 and f4). This gave me the crazy idea that maybe the higher ISO combined with the f2.8 of the lens on the X2, might be able to give me results I'd be happy with. But alas, another crackpot idea is probably going to meet an ignominious demise, and I'll have to save up for that ME.

 

'Best

 

Brent

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Ooooh, I had not found these. Thank you, Reminic. The Summer milky way photo was especially impressive.

 

I notice that all of these photos were taken by X1s. How does the X2 low light performance compare to that of the X1?

 

Thanks again,

 

Brent

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Brent, just in case, have you seen those ?

L1001535 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Starry Night @ The Mausoleum | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

moon and star | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

 

There might be more somewhere in there:

night sky - Flickr: Search

 

Just my 2 cents...

 

Your picture is jolly good by the way ! : )

 

 

Thanks!!! I haven't seen them before!

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  • 3 weeks later...

Well, I bought an X2.

 

It arrived Monday and last night I had to try it out on the night sky despite the dismal temperatures (teens F), and the fact that the sky wasn't dark because the waxing moon was just past first quarter. I couldn't wait.

 

I also botched the job somewhat, because I guess I fouled up the settings and didn't save DNGs, only JPGs. Oh well, next time. Anyway below are a couple of samples of what I did get, mediocre files, light pollution and all. The first is recognizably Orion. The moon was not far out of the frame, just above Orion's head. It looks as though the lens has a bit of coma on the extreme edges, but not bad really.

 

The second photo is the Cassiopeia-Perseus region. Just left of center, you can just start to make out the extended glow of the Andromeda galaxy which is cut off by the frame. Cool.

 

Both exposures were at f.28 @ 15 seconds. I look forward to trying this again with no moon and DNG files with more latitude. Still I'm encouraged. I'm glad I bought the camera. And, I must say that the X2 was a joy to operate there in the dark. The menus were simple, well designed, and easy to navigate.

 

I'll post more later. Thanks to all who helped in the decision.

 

Brent

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I don't know how to shoot stars picture , I tried different setting ,

here is 2 pics from my x2

first one is f6.3 @ 15 sec , second one is f2.8 @ 30 sec

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Oops! I meant to write in the post above, "Just left of center ON THE VERY BOTTOM OF THE FRAME, you can just start to make out the extended glow . . . ."

 

I also failed to mention that I was using ISO 3200. And "f.28" should, of course, read "f2.8." (Good grief, is it any wonder I messed up the file settings? I think I need a vacation.)

 

I'd edit the post, but it looks like its too late (no edit button).

 

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I don't know how to shoot stars picture , I tried different setting ,

here is 2 pics from my x2

first one is f6.3 @ 15 sec , second one is f2.8 @ 30 sec

 

It looks like you've done just fine. Thanks for posting.

 

[Warning: I'm about to tell you things you probably already know. I hope I don't insult your intelligence, but since you indicated that you didn't know how to shoot stars, I thought I'd put in a little primer—just in case some of it might be helpful:] The wider your aperture, of course, the more light you'll gather, and the more stars you will record. Likewise, the longer the shutter is open, the more light gets gathered, but after a certain point the stars will start to elongate due to the angular distance the star images starts to trace across the sensor (due to the rotation of the earth). A rough calculation tells me that this will start to occur on an APS-C sized sensor, coupled with a 24mm lens, at about 17 seconds. So anything up to the 15 second setting will give you round stars. 30 seconds will show stars evolving into sausages.

 

I did experiment with the 30 second setting, and I have to say that the effect isn't too pronounced. Star fields near the celestial pole, where the angular distance the stars appear to move is much smaller than that of near stars near the equator, could probably be photographed at 30 seconds with little elongation. Or, if one doesn't mind a little elongation (it bugs some of us), one could probably use 30 seconds with abandon. I need a clear moonless night at a dark site to play some more . . . er . . . I mean to do more research.

 

Best,

 

Brent

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I can't answer for the X2, but assuming it's not very far from the X1, the following might have some relevance : I was doing long exposures one night with the X1, and targeted the sky once, just for fun - to see what the result looks like. I'm suspecting the white from the lower right corner is a nearby street light.

 

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ISO 1600 - f/3.5 - 30s - unprocessed raw (only converted to jpeg for the forum)

 

Perhaps it's worth trying using f2.8 and ISO 3200 at various shutter speeds?

 

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You can always try stacking so that you can use lower ISO, longer exposure and smaller f stops. If seriously interested try the astrophotograhy sites and software. That may help...

 

thank you very much

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