Was there an upgrade deal for C1 LE owners of M8?

[eronald]

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Anyway, you can get me to go off on C1 ad nauseum, I have to use it at work, and there is absolutely nothing about it that I like.

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There is exactly one thing about it that I do like: The images themselves.

 

Edmund

[Shootist]

Anyway, you can get me to go off on C1 ad nauseum, I have to use it at work, and there is absolutely nothing about it that I like. The capture/process metaphor it was built on is really only appropriate for tethered shooting, so as a workspace for the M8 and DSLR's which bring images into a library so to speak, it is at odds. There is no DAM, no output to web galleries, books or print. It's metadata support is pretty thin. The focus utility is a joke, sure you can scale the whole image as large as you like, but can you tell me where exactly on the slider 100% is, because I sure would like to know. So you never really can tell what you are looking at. I also "like" how it litters my HD with session folders...

 

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I must agree 100% and also every time I start it it searches my A: drive and then takes forever to shut down. And this is on a Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 (E6600) overclocked to 3.4GHz with 2GB of RAM.

If it wasn't for Jamie's magenta profile I would never us it and once I get the free IR filter from Leica I'll be uninstalling it.

[Guest sirvine]

I know you guys are dealing in high volume, so the stakes are a bit different, but I've always kept RAW files because it seems very likely to me that at some point in the not too distant future there could be a RAW processing engine that would make you wish you could re-do all your old TIFFs.

 

In fact, if LR or Aperture upgrade their RAW engine (or offer alternatives), you could just re-process within the app and retain all the metadata and settings.

[Eikonphoto]

Great. I will stick with Raw Developer.

Photo mechanic (about to roll out their latest M8 dng compatible update) is great for all my rotating, renumbering, sorting by capture (a number of different cameras in use at an event), so if the best the pro version of C1 will add is a rotating feature, then I will hang on and let the major players fight it out until there is a clear winner for my workflow, and at a reasonable price.

Thanks, you guys are the best.

Karen

[bsmith]

Photo Mechanic is NOT dng compatible, with 4.5 you only get a small thumb preview , no zoom enlargement to check, detail , focus etc. You must convert all your M8 files first w/ Adobe Raw Convertor to universal DNGs , then bring them into Photo Mechanic. Then, the converted DNGs will not be readable in C1 ! You must use the original DNGs in C1.

[Philinflash]

And here I was, worrying if I should invest a lot of psychic energy into learning how to get the best out of C1 LE or maybe C1 Pro. You guys have scotched that for sure.

 

I will continue to make DNGs but it looks like I won't be fully operational until Adobe releases CS3; anyone know when that will be?

 

Philip

[robertwright]

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RAW converters are like developers, you don't have to justify it to others which ones you use. My opinions were just my opinions, based on me having used all the programs and repeatedly processed similar jobs through them to see where I end up.

 

90% of the time I find I end up with very similar conversions, but usually different ways of getting there. I think it is worth investing some time to make sure you are in the program you like, regardless of what it is. So do try C1, at least it was free with the camera. But I bet very few would upgrade after trying other workflows.

 

In all of that, while I do like the files the C1 produces, there is nothing special about them that I cannot do in LR or Raw Developer for example, and I can do other things in LR which I need to do (metadata for example) and it keeps me organized. That is a big AND.

 

Raw Developer flat out has the best noise reduction and sharpening tools in any program I have used. The sharpening you don't need so much... Also RD's black and white conversions are good, and the noise reduction combines to give you control of the "grain" effect meaning the sky is the limit. LR tends to overemphasize grain, which I like sometimes, but other times not so much.

 

I would prefer to be in Aperture because it does everything i need, but so far the conversions are not there yet, but that will hopefully come sooner not later in a raw update.

 

Not all raw developers perform the same on all images, you do need to keep one or two in the stable for edge cases. But all things considered, C1 imo is overpriced for what it does, and way over priced for what it doesn't do. LR got my 199 the other day. RD my 99 two weeks ago. Between those two you would not need Aperture.